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Old 03-26-2006, 05:37 PM
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Master cylinder replacement

I am looking to replace my master cylinder this weekend along with the brake fluid resevoir, front rotors, and all the brake pads. Ive checked the DIY sticky's and done a few searches, but I need a bit more info. I will be purchasing a mityvac this week before the job. I am changing the master cylinder because it seems to have a slow leak and also when I press the brakes there is pressure for the first half and then no pressure the rest of the way down.

I have read that I need to bench bleed the master cylinder. Exactly how do I do this?

Whats the best method for flushing the brake fluid completley?

Does the master cylinder from shop forum come with all the nessecary seals...is there anything else I might need?

Any words of caution on what to avoid or to pay careful attention to?

Thanks for all your help guys

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Old 03-26-2006, 06:16 PM
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Brake system bleeding, master cylinder bleeding
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1127978#post1127978

You may need the large O ring that seals between the master cylinder and power booster, some kits do not have the O ring.

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Old 03-26-2006, 06:21 PM
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Normally if you haven't tampered with any other parts of the system, you can simply install the master in place of the old unit. Start the vehicle and test the brake-pedal pressure.
I disagree with this step. If you remove/change any part of the brake system (Except the pads) you should bleed the entire system. Even if you only changed one caliper.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:24 PM
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Whats the best method for flushing the brake fluid completely?

Question: Whats the best method for flushing the brake fluid completely?
Answer: A pressure bleeder does the best job of flushing the brake system.



Industry Adopts Brake Fluid Replacement Guidelines By Bill Williams, Technical Contributor
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf50412.htm

Brake flush every two years?! U'r kidding right?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=96852&page=1&pp=15

Why should I flush my brake fluid every year, you ask?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=220599#post220599

Brake bleeder recommendation
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=455818#post455818

Power Bleeder or what?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=707359#post707359

Brake bleeder - power bleeder Homemade
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=117258
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:31 PM
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I disagree with this step. If you remove/change any part of the brake system (Except the pads) you should bleed the entire system. Even if you only changed one caliper.
I missed that...
What are they thinking to write anything like that...

The first rule = this is a SAFETY system = always bleed the system when you open it to air...

Second rule = no exceptions = refer to first rule.

Third rule = if you do ignore the first rule = death and/or litigation...
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:32 PM
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I will be purchasing a mityvac this week before the job.

I have read that I need to bench bleed the master cylinder. Exactly how do I do this?

Whats the best method for flushing the brake fluid completley?

Does the master cylinder from shop forum come with all the nessecary seals...is there anything else I might need?

Any words of caution on what to avoid or to pay careful attention to?

Thanks for all your help guys

A mity vac is mity handy for vacuum work but a pressure bleeder is the best tool for brake bleeding.
Just pressureize the system and go around, starting with the wheel farthest away. Bleed till fresh clear fluid comes out., piece of cake.

When I do a master cyl I just fill it with fluid (dot 4 only) and install it, never needed to bleed the system or buy anything else.
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:42 PM
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I missed that...
What are they thinking to write anything like that...

The first rule = this is a SAFETY system = always bleed the system when you open it to air...
While there is likely no air in the lines or calipers, you ARE putting air in the system between connection of the brake lines and the master.

No amount of time saved in a repair job is worth risking a persons life.
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When I do a master cyl I just fill it with fluid (dot 4 only) and install it, never needed to bleed the system or buy anything else.
See whunter's last post...
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See whunter's last post...

With a pressure bleeder its so easy to do the job, I just never found it necessary tho So what could happen, all of a sudden you have no brakes? dont think so
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dot 3 to dot 4

I am also getting ready to replace my MC. What is the best way to clean all of the dot3 out b4 adding dot4? Is dot4 really better than dot 3?
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I am also getting ready to replace my MC. What is the best way to clean all of the dot3 out b4 adding dot4? Is dot4 really better than dot 3?
Power bleed/flush several quarts of fresh clean through the system.
The only way to do better is total replacement of the system.
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Is dot4 really better than dot 3?[/QUOTE]

Yep..Dot 4 wont absorb moisture, its worth the extra $. With a pressure bleeder its easy to change out the fluid, no assistent needed
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Dot4 will still absorb water but not as quickly as Dot3... boiling point is also higher which is what matters. I bench bled my MC before installing it... I didnt have any adapters so I just used my fingers to block the holes.

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