1981 Mercedes-Benz 240D Manual Transmission 246k miles 21000012783 type 123.260 | eBay

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

1982 mercedes-benz 240d 4 Speed Manual Transmission Used | eBay

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

4 Speed Manual Transmission Mercedes - W1115 W123 240D 716.210 | eBay

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Mercedes Manual Transmission for OM616/OM617 Diesels | eBay

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

The seller might know of a parts source - 1985 Mercedes

Sixto
83 300SD

If you're in the US, I just searched car-part.com for 1970-1985 Mercedes Truck and got a hit for a 1971 O309D 5-speed at Mr Ford Auto Dismantling in Los Angeles (323 583-8941).

Sixto
83 300SD

I put a link to EuroTech in Kevin's other thread but I'm pretty sure all he needs is a standard bellhousing for the 616/617.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

He'd have to confirm that is a 617 in that 309d as I think there may be two different style vans with different engines/transmissions labeled 309d.

Yes, here's the other 309d. Some of them had the OM616 but others the OM314 or OM352

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_O309

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Is there a 4-bolt M102? A 190E can stress an M102. How does it pull an O309???

Sixto
83 300SD

I take back what I said. I think all 309d's are that larger chassis van. The smaller chassis vans were called 207d's or 307d's with the 616 in them (with the 2 and 3 indicated different rated carrying weights and the 7 for 70hp). But when they put the 617 in there, they couldn't call it a 309d--- 3tons and 90 horsepower since they already had the larger chassis van labeled a 309d so they named it the 409d instead. As far as I know, the 617 was never installed in the larger chassis vans, only the smaller chassis ones. I don't know if the transmissions in the larger chassis vans are the same as the ones in the smaller chassis vans, although as I already mentioned somewhere, I think the smaller chassis 5 spd is the same as what went into the G-Wagon.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I don't know. It's always astonished me how small an engine MB put in their vans. Now many people who have driven a 240d in the US would think it's a good idea to put a 616 in a van that big which can carry 20 people?

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Here's a complete 5spd transmission plus bellhousing on German Ebay. If you search on the terms in the german description you will find some others too. The transmissions in the 207d and 307d should be identical to the one in your 409d.

5 Gang Schaltgetriebe Mercedes 207D 209D 307D 309D 711110 TOP PREIS!! | eBay

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Getriebe-Mercedes-Benz-207D-W602-2-4-53KW-5Gang-711110-711-110-GF1-18-5-ED756-/322018794898?hash=item4af9d0dd92:g:WccAAOSwQItT45Y~

Or a 4spd

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-schalt-Getriebe-207D-307D-/311724891055?hash=item4894405baf:g:sOgAAOSwCGVX2XRq

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

You could probably buy a brand new transmission and bellhousing from the Indian company which now makes the same van in India with a turbo 616 and have it shipped to the US. Can anyone remember the name of that company?

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

It's Force Motors.

Force Motors LTD. -Traveller Delivery Van

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

but they did install the non turbo 5 er,
the engine crossmember had two sets of locating holes for the big rubber donut cushions as you have discovered.


http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/377655-benz-tn-truck-van-hymer-207d-209d-307d-308d.html