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Old 06-15-2006, 01:44 AM
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$219 and $40, you need to be on crack to buy it!
Watch your $260 in action Video. Now go for a drive and listen to the roar of people laughing at you!

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Old 06-15-2006, 02:44 AM
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oh god i hate blow off valves. They sound horrible on those POS dodge neons SRT4's
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That thing looks like it should be on the handlebar of a tricycle the clowns ride.!
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:36 AM
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That thing looks like it should be on the handlebar of a tricycle the clowns ride.!
ROFLMAO!! Al, you've made my day!

Noob question: what the hell does a BOV do anyway?
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:22 AM
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Sounds like a condensation valve on a air brake system.
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Notice he writes "when you let off your pedal fastly"
Thats why you guys think you dont need it. You dont let your foot off the pedal fastly enough.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:23 AM
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ROFLMAO!! Al, you've made my day!

Noob question: what the hell does a BOV do anyway?

A BOV is used only on gas engines as far as i know. The reason for a BOV is when you let of the pedal the throttle plate closes this causes all the air from the turbo to the throtle plate to "back-up". That then shoves the compresser wheel in the turbo and causes the bearings to wear out. it also causes the turbo to slow down which then takes longer to build boost again.

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I don't see how a BOV or a BPV (by-pass valve, used on many OEM turbocharged cars) wouldn't work the same on a diesel engine.

Like Mr. Stroker said, it keeps pressurized air from hitting the turbine blades (often spinning at 100,000+ rpm) helping to alleviate surge and damage to the turbo.
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:01 PM
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Blow off valves do have a use on a diesel but its not for performance reasons. People who put overly aggressive turbos on manual transmission diesel can encounter compressor surge when they shift. When this problem occurs a blow off valve is called for to prevent wear and tear on the turbo.

Think of it as like adding an oil cooler. It doesn't add power but its needed when you hotrod the other parts of the engine.
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I don't see how a BOV or a BPV (by-pass valve, used on many OEM turbocharged cars) wouldn't work the same on a diesel engine.

Like Mr. Stroker said, it keeps pressurized air from hitting the turbine blades (often spinning at 100,000+ rpm) helping to alleviate surge and damage to the turbo.
Here's a clue: DIESEL ENGINES DON'T HAVE A THROTTLE.
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Here's a clue: DIESEL ENGINES DON'T HAVE A THROTTLE.
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Well then, yes... that's a very good reason to NOT buy a BOV for your Mercedes diesel!
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Diesels don't have a throttle but when the engine rpms drop quickly, like durring a shift with a manual transmission, you can still have a compressor surge occur.

I belive Forcedinduction had a video of it happening to his 240D with a 3.0L turbo in it.
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:38 PM
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Diesels don't have a throttle but when the engine rpms drop quickly, like durring a shift with a manual transmission, you can still have a compressor surge occur.

I belive Forcedinduction had a video of it happening to his 240D with a 3.0L turbo in it.
I have a compressor bypass valve on my turbo gasser. The trick to avoiding compressor surge is to not let up on the fuel when shifting.
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Old 06-16-2006, 01:43 AM
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I belive Forcedinduction had a video of it happening to his 240D with a 3.0L turbo in it.
I do: VIDEO. That is NOT a BOV, it's surge. The turbo is the stock Garrett T3. Letting off the throttle (Yes, FUEL throttle) quickly will cause a backup of air causing surge in the T3. That video is one of the main reasons I use the K26 with my manual tranny insted of the T3. I doubt it would last very long after 100+ shifts per day.

Even with my experience with the Garrett, I don't advocate the use of a BOV with diesels. The surge that thing had is 1/16th what a gasser turbo would have.

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