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Does your 603 burn any oil?
This thing continues to amaze me. One would think that a 19 year old engine with 254k+ on it would burn a bit of oil? It has the original head, head gasket everything.
But the level on the dipstick just never moves! 8 quarts in 8 quarts out come change time. Maybe my dipstick is broke? ![]() I am using light 5w40 Delvac 1 to! I really don't check it much anymore, their just isn't a need to.
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My 617 with 241k that regularly travels 85-100mph for significant distances doesn't burn any, I lose maybe a qt every 3000 miles from normal "sweating and dripping" and probably from blowby too....doesn't burn any though.
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Hmm
My 617 burns about 1 quarts every 3000 miles. I figure this is normal and well within spec.
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My 350SD, does not seem to burn ANY oil whatsoever. Probably for the first time in its life. Although it is equipped with the 3.0 liter (and a strong one, to boot, I'm proud to announce).
I've driven it 2000 miles, and the synthetic substance still has a semi-golden shade. I'm a happy man.
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same here. mines burns probably about a quart4 every 3000 miles. but i figure thats just a diesel
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Not yet...
My 350SD rolls about 80 miles a day in heavy commuter traffic and is dripping about 1/2 a quart every 3K between changes but no burning. Its running strong at 220K and I'm amazed...
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Nary a drop, of course I am just barely at 140K. HG, that's encouraging about your 603 with the original head. Is it a #14 head?
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Hatterasguy has a great point, I think MB got it right with oil consumption on the 603 engines
![]() How often are you changing oil? And what brand of filter? (Oboy, I don't want to start another filter debacle, its just that the choice of filters is less with the 603. And since I change about 5K intervals a good filter is necessary. I own two '87 300D turbos and both show around 265K miles. One has new rings which are just about broken in actually. Both have #14 heads (rebuilt) and amazingly one uses about a quart every 4K and the other (with new rings) a little less than that! Neither have any significant leaks, just a few drops off the IP shut-off lever shaft which I am too lazy to replace the O-rings on. I believe the turbo bearings let some oil pass into the intake I think that's where most of it goes (my EGRs are in the test mode) I use AMsoil 15W40 and change at 5K even though the last analysis showed I can go further. I also tend to check whenever I am looking for something to do, unlike the 617's which I religiously check every other fuel stop and wind up topping up inevitably.
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'85 300D with 298,500
burns zero oil.
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My 617 does not burn oil, it leaks 3-4qts between oil changes. D@mn injection pump gasket...
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90 3.5 burns between .5 and 1.5 qts every 3000 miles depending on heavy highway or stop n go use.
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Mine doesn't seem to burn any ... 8 quarts go in, about that much comes out ... don't need to add any between 3k oil changes. It does leak a little, but apparantly not enough to affect the oil level in a 3,000-mile span. I use 15w-40 Rotella and the MB filter from the dealership.
My car never ceases to amaze me. ![]()
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87 300D, 299,488mi. I use 1.5qt. in a 5000mi. change interval. Rotella 15-40 and mahle filter.
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I leak about 1-1.5 qts per 4k-4500k change intervals. I use Delvac 1300 15w40 and a Mann filter (they are what the PO had in the trunk when he sold it, who am I to shy away from 6 free filters?). When I use the last one next change, I will use the Hengest or Napa filters.
These cars are just amazing.
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Quote:
http://24.15.176.27:8080//benz/oilfilter/oilfilter.htm
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