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W124 diesel sedan/wagon drivetrain interchangeability
Hello,
If I have a 1987 w124 300td without a transmission and engine what are my potential donor cars (besides another w124 300TD)? Will the tranny and engine from a W124 300D sedan swap in nicely, or were there significant differences in the wagon drivetrain? What about an 86-87 300SDL? |
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The 300d 300td and 300sdl from 1986-87 share the the same engine and transmission. Everything is interchangeable.
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the 90-93 300D uses a 722.418, a much lighter duty trans than the 87, and of course the motor is 5 cyl, not 6... so, any 87 300D/TD would work for the trans, but the engine can come from any 86-88 SDL or a 300D/TD as the 603 3.0L is the same across the board. but the motor mounts are different, so keep them with the car.
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You mean engine mount arms (the metal arms that run between the engine and the body)?
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also, the drive shaft is the same length, but the yoke is smaller. if you get a 90-93 drivetrain, you will need to get the differential as well. you DO NOT want to swap yokes between diffs... preload is difficult to figure in the car.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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The tandem power steering and SLS pump is unique to the wagon unless you find a very rare SDL with SLS. Don't pass up a good engine because it doesn't have a tandem pump, though. As a matter of fitment, the 603 from a 350SD/L or W140 SD/S350 is basically the same engine with known issues. The donor might have a 3.0 block so check serial numbers. With a bit of work you can swap in the 5 cylinder engine and 722.4 transmission from an '87 190D turbo or 90-93 300D 2.5 turbo to make a 250TD turbo. The 250TD was available outside North America. I don't know about a 250TD turbo. I'm pretty sure the same tandem pump will work. If you don't need to climb or merge in a hurry, you can try the 5 cylinder engine from an 86-89 190D 2.5. I don't know if the prop shaft from a W124 2.5 sedan is a drop in fit for a wagon. There might be a smaller yoke at the diff too. There's always the 2.2 liter engine from an 84-85 190D but I don't know if the tandem pump will attach. I think DieselPaul has a W124 200TD.
If you get a W126 engine, swap in the oil filter cover from a W124 or W140 *before* the engine goes in. I don't know which cover 190D engines come with. Sixto 87 300D |
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