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Can W115 Oil Bath Air Cleaner be used on W123?
I'm not seeking opinions about which is better, but can anyone think of any reason why an old style oil bath air cleaner from W115/OM615 will not play with a W123/OM616 setup? Of course, physical constraints are one thing, but mechanically, would a 616 be happy? I don't want it to run away or anything.
Rick
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I'm not 100% sure but I seem to recall seeing a similar setup in a diagram for the 123 that I was looking at. It looked just like the 115 air cleaner. I beleive that it was for cold climates. I will take a look when I get home and see if I can find it. I do not know of any reason why it could not work.
--Maatt
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I found it!
These are scans made from the 615/616 manual we have. They basically show that there was a special use 123 that had the oil filter housing that was used on the 115's. I have no idea how it will work with the 617 engine though.
I hope they help in your project. Let us know your reasons/ results after installation. These are both PDF files at about 450kb each. Diagram Installation --Matt
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KI6CCA Current Stable: 1987 300SDL 1980 450SEL Out to Pasture: 1982 300D KIA (Rice Rocket vs. 123: He hit me at 80-100MPH I walked away he went to the hospital. Sounds fair to me!) 1985 300D EURO Scrapped (got more money from state than car was worth) 1979 & 1980 300SD Great Cars! |
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Thanks Matt-
My early W123(OM 616) needs a new air cleaner anyway and there happen to be 2 or 3 W115s in the boneyard now. I just thought, since the oil cleaner is as good or better than the paper, I might try it. That is one feature on thw W115 that I like. Rick
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My question is why would you do that? The oil bath cleaner are 1940'-1950's technology. They were not very effective at small particle filtration.
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I thought I remembered a thread on here that concluded otherwise. I'll do some reading before I install one. But , I did pick a nice one up at upullit - on sale for five cents ($.05). It's going to be a bit tight on the W123 due to the A/C receiver dryer that isn't there on the W115.
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80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??) |
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the oil baths were respected in their day.
but i wouldnt convert a newer car to it. in fact i converted my last 115 to paper. tom w
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Diesel Giant and TW-
Looks like you guys are right. Modern pleated paper filters seem to be more efficient (as of 1979). I'll probably just leave it alone. I seem to be building a supply of W115 parts- maybe I'll find one someday. Rick
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