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Blevinsax 08-17-2006 03:25 PM

ARV Disabling... how to?
 
How would one go about disabling the ARV? I am having my EGR disabled as we speak via the blocking plate method, but if I coul dhave more boost without the ARV, I would like to disable that as well... Can anyone give directions on how to do so???:confused:

Stevo 08-17-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirNik84 (Post 1249152)
My dad has used the Soda can plate on all his cars, that way no one can see that the EGR has been blocked, and its easly removed (on Gassers) for SMOG testing.

I dont have a turbo, but a soda can seems a mite thin :eek: with all the heat in the vicinity, how long have you been running with it?

ConnClark 08-17-2006 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blevinsax (Post 1249172)
How would one go about disabling the ARV? I am having my EGR disabled as we speak via the blocking plate method, but if I coul dhave more boost without the ARV, I would like to disable that as well... Can anyone give directions on how to do so???:confused:

BB's have been known to some how get lodged in the vacuum line that connects to the ARV on the turbo.

Blevinsax 08-17-2006 03:53 PM

Aha...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnClark (Post 1249193)
BB's have been known to some how get lodged in the vacuum line that connects to the ARV on the turbo.

Oh, I see... the old 'errant BB' scam... I hear ya! Let's see... you can buy BB's at Wal-Mart, right???

gsxr 08-17-2006 04:06 PM

Here's some photos of a little nicer solution... another forum member (Brian Carlton?) sells a block-off plate to cover the hole left by the EGR. My EGR valve was leaking externally, so the BB trick wasn't cutting it anymore.

More photos here:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_intake/

http://www.w124performance.com/image...EGR_after2.jpg

Diesel Giant 08-17-2006 05:48 PM

Removing the EGR will increase the cylinder temp, give you better fuel mileage and more power and increase NoX. Letting the EGR do its thing will lower NoX but raise Co, soot up your engine, reduce fuel mileage and lower cylinder temps, and reduce power slightly.

Its up to you whether you do it or not, I hate the EGR. That is all I will say as big brother (EPA) monitors this site for violators.:silly:

SirNik84 08-17-2006 06:09 PM

I ran the Soda can for about 2 years, and then about 3 weeks ago i made my own block off plate like the one pictured above.

The BB is the real trick, it keeps the vaccum from opening the valve. :scholar:

and its was a little thicker then an average soda can because i used an Arazona Tea can :D

Brian Carlton 08-17-2006 11:36 PM

Here's a few past threads regarding removal of the EGR:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=140290&highlight=EGR

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=136433&highlight=EGR

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=143334&highlight=EGR

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=114610

bnaquin 08-18-2006 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr (Post 1249212)
Here's some photos of a little nicer solution... another forum member (Brian Carlton?) sells a block-off plate to cover the hole left by the EGR. My EGR valve was leaking externally, so the BB trick wasn't cutting it anymore.

More photos here:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_intake/

http://www.w124performance.com/image...EGR_after2.jpg

That's a pretty clean looking setup. I bought a piece of sheet metal from Lowes and cut it to the shape of the OE gasket. It wasn't nearly as pretty as this setup but I guess it's doing the job.
I then removed the EGR and slipped the new plate inbetween with new gaskets on each side, then reattached the EGR. It's difficult to see the metal plate blocking the EGR valve plus we don't have emmisions inspections in the San Antonio area. I think I'm seeing an increase in performace.

I love my '92 300D 2.5T.

Blevinsax 08-18-2006 03:06 AM

Glad it's back...
 
I'm glad this thread is back - I was wondering why it was suddenly closed and then disappeared! :)

gsxr 08-18-2006 12:17 PM

If you disable the EGR on almost any MB diesel from 1990-93, you will lose power, because the wastegate is computer controlled (unlike the 1989 and older models). The computer senses the lack of exhaust gasses, and then cuts the boost. To properly disable the EGR on these cars - without power loss - takes a lot more work. Test your 1990-93 300D 2.5T from 0-60 on a flat road with a stopwatch... it should be 13 seconds, approx. If it's much slower than that (say, 15+ seconds) your engine is not delivering normal power. Just an FYI... there are a couple of threads on this subject elsewhere in this forum, from a year or two ago.

:cool:


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