Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-05-2006, 12:51 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 25
Angry ATF line broke for the 2nd time!

About three years ago, the transmission fluid line broke. It's attached with metal clips with a plastic fitting between the clip and the pipe. The plastic had been shook loose and the metal clasp had worn away the pipe and made a hole in it. I had the pipe replaced with a new one ordered from Germany. This weekend it happened again!!!

Unless I'm the unluckiest AFT-line owner around, the metal clasp system with the plastic insert must be a faulty design. I can post pictures if anyone would like to take a look.

This time I repaired the line myself with some plumbing tape and a couple of hose clamps. I'll find a better repair later on and put in a more solid plastic or rubber insert between the clasp and the pipe.

Anyone else prone to this design fault?
__________________
_________________
1988 560 SEL
1984 190D 2.2 (Sold)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-05-2006, 08:33 AM
Craig
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
That's funny, I had the same failure on my 300D last week (345K miles). Apparently the little rubber/plastic grommet deteriorated and the tube rubbed on the clamp. I should have noticed it sooner and replaced the grommet, but I'm an idiot. As a temporary fix, I cut out the bad piece of tubing and installed a length of fuel line with clamps. That's been working fine for a week. I have the replacement line ordered, it will be installed this week. I'm not sure if I'm getting a new clamp or not, if not I will make a grommet from a small piece of the fuel line and reuse the clamp.

It did last 345K miles, and I suspect it failed due to getting oil on it (the PO wasn't very diligent about fixing leaks), so I hesitate to call it a design flaw. I guess I'll have to take another look when it gets to 700K miles.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-05-2006, 09:15 AM
Johnhef's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Frederick, Md
Posts: 4,539
The old engine in my 83 300CD used to shake pretty bad. the left side line broke through first, it was removed, welded thicker in the spot it broke and put back in. a few months later, the right side broke. due to the fact the engine was out of a different car i suppose, I couldnt for the life of me get the lie out, short of unbolting the engine and lifting it, so I cut a section of hose, wrapped it around the break and used hose claps to secure it. Held for over a year untill the engine finally blew up.
__________________


1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-05-2006, 12:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: West of Ft. Worth. TX
Posts: 4,186
Did you replace the clamps when you replaced the tranny cooling line? If not, then the problem is still there.
__________________
Sam

84 300SD 350K+ miles ( Blue Belle )
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-05-2006, 12:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Near Atlanta, GA
Posts: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig View Post
That's funny, I had the same failure on my 300D last week (345K miles). Apparently the little rubber/plastic grommet deteriorated and the tube rubbed on the clamp. I should have noticed it sooner and replaced the grommet, but I'm an idiot. As a temporary fix, I cut out the bad piece of tubing and installed a length of fuel line with clamps. That's been working fine...
Exactly my situation. And it's still holding. I have a used line from the junkyard. I guess I should pop it in soon... However as preventitive maintenence on the other line, I cut a piece of 3/8" ( i think) fuel line and replaced the crumbling plastic grommet with that. I probably will never have to worry about it again.
__________________
1984 Astral Grey 300TDT - The French Fry
1979 Yellow 300SD - The Pomme - SOLD
1985 Light Ivory 300DT - Fritz
1987 Anthracite Grey 300SDL - ?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-05-2006, 12:26 PM
Craig
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonschwenke View Post
Exactly my situation. And it's still holding. I have a used line from the junkyard. I guess I should pop it in soon... However as preventitive maintenence on the other line, I cut a piece of 3/8" ( i think) fuel line and replaced the crumbling plastic grommet with that. I probably will never have to worry about it again.
Hopefully my new line will show up early this week, like it's supposed to. I need to drive about 4000 miles next week, and I want to get rid of this temporary fix before I leave. I may end up doing the same thing with the grommet, there's no reason that it wouldn't last indefinitely.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-05-2006, 03:11 PM
Fuzzball's Avatar
Registered Agitator
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 716
I've had the same thing happen to me on both my SD and SWMBO's D.

The line on the D was a pain in the behind to get a replacement. The books give one partnumber, but that part doesn't work at the transmission connection. Then I got the right part number from Carson357 and my dealer ordered and delivered...this one's going to work....

Until I get that replaced, I cut the line, used a 3" piece of tranny hose from O'Reilly to splice the two halves together....working great!
__________________
1998 W202 C230 - The money pit of late.
1984 W126 300SD (356,800 miles) Gone to the wrenchapart
1984 W123 300D Gone to the wrenchapart
1972 W108 280SE 3.5 (sold but not forgotten)
1986 Buick Grand National 3.8l Turbo (86k miles)
1966 Glassic Model 'A' Replica http://www.glassicannex.org

http://banners.wunderground.com/weat...Round_Rock.gif
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-05-2006, 03:26 PM
Craig
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Well, I got a call this morning telling me the part was in for my 300D, hopefully it's the correct part. If not I'll also be asking for the correct part number. The sooner I get rid of this patch job, the happier I'll be.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page