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New Here Few Questions
Hello.
I currently own a 1976 BMW 2002, I have never owned anything but a BMW but now I am thinking about purchasing a 1980 Mercedes-Benz 300SD. The car is a florida car (i am in michigan), there is not one spot of rust anywhere, the paint isnt in the best condition. The interior is spotless also. There are some quarks, speedometer doesnt work (rest of cluster does, so I am thinking maybe the wire has just come loose) slight transmission leak, but is a new transmission last october, the guy says its the seal. When the car is sitting it has a slight rough idle, the air cleaner housing rattles, when the car is driving it is completely smooth, is this normal for diesels? How are they one fuel consumption, difficulty in the winter? The car was listed at 3000, I have talked him down to 1200 since I plan to do a restore and told him the ammount it will end up costing me to do some of the work. should I go ahead with this deal? |
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Go for it! I think most of them rattle like that. Expect 20 mpg. Anything over that is a bonus. If you are going to drive in Michigan salt invest in POR 15 and wash it daily, or it will look like the rest of them up here in no time.
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1959 Gravely LI, 1963 Gravely L8, 1973 Gravely C12 1982 380SL 1978 450 SEL 6.9 euro restoration at 63% and climbing 1987 300 D 2005 CDI European Delivery 2006 CDI Handed down to daughter 2007 GL CDI. Wifes |
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1200 sounds good...
Best of luck with the restoration.
John
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John Hughes, was in Landstuhl, Germany but currently in San Antonio, TX 1978 280CE Astral Silver now 59,xxx miles and counting "Silber-Kugel" 1986 300E Black Pearl Metallic 143,xxx miles 5-spd daily driver w/ blk leather "Schwarz-Schönheit" 1989 190E 2.6 (euro) 5-spd Desert Taupe 112,xxx kms Had to leave behind in Germany!!! "Helga" 1983 300D Pastel Beige now 312,xxx + miles SOLD OBK#24 |
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It's hard to go wrong for $1200 if its running.
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I do believe that there is a law against purchasing a rust-free W116 and operating it in MI in the winter.
If there is no law, there should be. Welcome to the forum, BTW. |
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Outstanding.
Buy it. Take care of it. Enjoy it for decades to come. I'd be interested to hear what the odometer reading currently is.
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80 300D 340K Owned 30 yrs 83 300SD 440K Owned 9 yrs - Daily Driver 150mi/day 02 Z71 Suburban 117,000 15 Toyota Prius 2600 miles 00 Harley Sportster 24k 09 Yamaha R6 03 Ninja 250 |
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are they difficult to drive in the winter? I know diesel can get like gel if it gets too cold and I have heard glow plugs aren't the most convinient. I will be driving it this winter and start the restore in the spring. Sorry for all the newb questions, I just know 0 about Mercedes, I am a BMW guy
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As the owner of 2 1980 300SD's I heartily reccomend you purchase the car. I love both of mine (much to my wifes chagrin).
The rattling air cleaner is quite common and can be solved easily. I also would like to know the mileage. If it is in decent condition it's certainly worth the 1200.
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Joe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1980 300SD - 495k miles - 'The Ambassador' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Former Family Members 95 C280 73 280SEL 90 300D 87 300SDL (X2) 86 560SEL 84 300D 80 300SD |
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it truely is in great condition. It definently needs a repaint, the trunk and tops of the doors are sun faded. But no rust, frame is good looking. I am just concerned about the trannie leak, if it is a seal does the trans have to be dropped?
the interior looks like it just rolled out of the factory, it has the owners manual (hard to get with these old cars!). The drivers and pass. windows will go down, but grind on the way up, would this be a bad motor or out of track? The rear vaccum locks dont work, you have to manually push them in. The title is actually still the Florida title, the couple drove it up to michigan. They are both disabled so cant care for it any longer. Here are some pics of my 76 02 BTW |
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I would guess the window regulators are going. Common on these cars.
Also a very good chance the cliamate control will work on hot only and on defrost only, but thats another post.
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1959 Gravely LI, 1963 Gravely L8, 1973 Gravely C12 1982 380SL 1978 450 SEL 6.9 euro restoration at 63% and climbing 1987 300 D 2005 CDI European Delivery 2006 CDI Handed down to daughter 2007 GL CDI. Wifes |
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Yes I think it is a crime to sentence the old man to the rust belt. Just keep it washed or dont drive him in the salt.
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1981 300D 147k 1998 VW Jetta Tdi 320k 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 141k 1979 300D 234k (sold) 1984 300D "Astor" 262k(sold) Mercedes How-To and Repair Pictorials I love the smell of diesel smoke in my hair |
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Winter fuel, synthetic oil, good glowplugs, acceptable compression, strong battery and good starter should keep you predictably startable down to about 5 below zero in my experience. Temperatures below that will be much less stressful with a block heater. Many MB diesels already have them. Check for it.
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There is a law here in our great state of mi however, you are required to give the car to me. |
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I think the tranny will have to be dropped to replace the seal. No big deal. I'm sure you'll find a detailed answer upon using the search. What do you mean by rough idle? The engine isn't smooth or does the whole body shake a little? Great bunch here. Welcome. Cheers, Bill |
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