Will they start from cold with no glow plugs? Inquiring minds want to know. Hatterasguy says his will. When's the test?

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TXBill



Former owner of a few diesel MB cars
1998 Lexus ES 300 In Chicago We Trust

Exactly. Where's that test he promised..............????

Mine sure wouldn't start w/o GP's. After a new relay and 6 new plugs she fired up beautifully.

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Autos:
1991 350SD 276,000 miles
2001 VW Beetle TDI 115,000 miles

Horns:
1955 Selmer Mark VI Alto (55,xxx)
1958 Selmer Mark VI Tenor (85,xxx)
1964 Selmer Mark VI Tenor (125,xxx)
1967 King Super-20 Tenor (430,xxx)
2002 Selmer Series III Soprano

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on a nice day mine will start after cranking a bit longer without glowing. 237k on it now too.

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1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350

Any diesel will start without glow plugs, it just takes muuuuch longer. When I first bought my old 300SD, all the glow plugs were shot, and it would take a couple of minutes of solid cranking before it would fire up (the starters on these cars must be EXTRA heavy duty!).

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87 300D - Running on Veggie oil; 260,000 plus miles; Original #14 head

An 80's vintage Yanmar 220D tractor I had would start w/out glow plugs. The glow cycle was for winter starting according to the owners manual. It also had a manual compression release so you could spin the engine faster during cold starting.

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RRGrassi


70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car

13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete.

99 W210 E300 Turbo Diesel, chipped, DPF/Converter Delete. Still needs EGR Delete, 232K

90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K

Gone and still missed...1982 w123 300D, 1991 w124 300D

Define "cold."

I could just barely start mine in ~45F weather when the glow plug fuse went south for the winter. Maybe six rounds of cranking the engine for 30 seconds each. Very impressive smoke cloud.

- JimY

My JD2040 doesn't have glow plugs. But then, it's a DI engine and it has provision for using a "Deere-approved" starter fluid. Even on the coldest morning last winter (21°F) she started just fine w/o fluid.

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Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.

Its in the garage! I'll give it a go tomarrow morning.

I know the 617 will start pretty darn cold, mine only refused when it got to the high 30's with 4 dead glow plugs.

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2016 Corvette Stingray 2LT
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

There I went and yanked the strip fuse, now I'm commited.

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2016 Corvette Stingray 2LT
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Mine would start with two good plugs... for what its worth.

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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

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Mine wouldnt start in 56F weather, unless driven for about an hour or 2

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Current:
05 E320 CDI
07 GL320 CDI
08 Sprinter
05 Dodge Cummins
01 Dodge Cummins

Previous
2004 E55 AMG
2002 C32 AMG (#2)
1995 E300
1978 300D
1987 300D
2002 C32 AMG(blown motor :[
1981 300SD
1983 300SD
1987 300SDL
2002 Jetta TDI
1996 S420
1995 S500
1993 190E 2.6
1992 190E 2.3
1985 190E 2.3 5-Speed

Last summer, mine began to start harder than its normal instant start so I took it to the shop. They told me I had 6 bad plugs. So apparently mine will start with no plug help. In 70* weather.

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Muleears
'07 E320 Bluetec 133K my DD
'04 Jaguar XJ8 VDP, 34K
'10 Hyundai Accent 60K Grocery Getter
'02 VW Golf soon to be on the road again
'97 E300 Diesel Son's DD
'61 VERY tolerant wife

Hampton Roads, VA USA

Gone but not forgotten:
'67 250S 95K
'86 300SDL
'87 300D Turbo, 364K! R.I.P.
'98 E300 Turbodiesel, 213K
'02 S420, 164K
'01 Prius 138K

My Bobcat skid steer with a Kubota engine has a toggle switch for the glow plugs. On cold days you hit the switch for a couple of seconds and it fires right up. I can start without glow plugs down to 30 deg. or so.

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Doug

1987 300TD x 3
2005 E320CDI

I wonder if it would be possible to implement an air intake heater like some off road diesels use, also do the new mbs have gp's at all or do they use computer control like the newer cummins heavy dutys, cats, or detroits.

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