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Old 11-06-2006, 03:25 PM
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R4 a/c compressor alternatives? (W126)

Are there any a/c compressor alternatives to that famous and cursed R4?(W126 1981-1985)? I wonder if one of those Seltec or Unica A6 styles could work? They make one with a two groove pulley clutch for regular belts. I know I would need a different mounting bracket/manifold hose/condenser-how about a bracket/hose/condesner off a 1986-87 300SDL? (inline 6 same as inline 5?)

Ackits has the universal Seltecs/Unicas for less than $200; they offer; heavy duty-quiet operation, long life-integrated oil sump. The one on my 1993 W124 is a workhorse!

R4 problems;

1) Bad oil circulation-the R4s I have been through (5) the stamped X (between the clutch and the compressor body-marks the oil dispersement hole) is on the bottom near the ports and gravity keeps the oil from circulating to other areas and shortens compressor life.

2) New R4s suction/discarge GM style washer seal issues; hello jimmyL crushing a/c developement!, tangofox...many others, I read the many forum searches on this topic; My car, the manifold hose has an insert on the discharge, flat on the suction, manifold block is straight across, not warped; I have tried; green discharge, red suction (jimmyL W123) was slanted-terrible hissing leak, next green discharge, yellow suction (no insert) leaked, last month; green discharge, yellow suction with my homemade copper insert jb welded and tapped, leaked. I tried installing washers/seals with cfc nylog and another time dry, made no difference still leaked both times.

My new R4 (GM style seal washers) purchased 4-3-6 from Ackits (actually made/rebuilt? by B & T Champion Parts, Inc. Port Richie, Florida) $298 running on R12 and Castrol 500 visc mineral oil is now toast after 6 months.

3. Rebuilt R4s (hey at least you get the o-ring suction/discharge) Here is what I have gone through in the last 6 years all using R134A (before I knew better); GM Harrison, Four Season, Factory Air, Apco. All lasted about a season.

So now I am again planning on my anual spring time W126 a/c project. Is the A6 style Seltec universal compressor possible? If not I will probalby go with a rebuilt Behr R4 ($148) with the o-ring ports, R12, mineral oil, the usual flush-this time I am going to drill out one of my many used expansion valves. new rec/dryer, new expansion valve, rebuilt a/c hose....possible condenser, my electrical switches are 6 months old, so probably ok.

Sorry for the long post, had to inform/vent/seek advice!
Thanks

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