Does it have an oil dip stick? I see trans sealed dip stick at passenger side rear, but did't locate oil dip stick.

Based on what I've read and seen, no it doesn't have an oil dipstick. IMO DC made a ridiculous decision to only rely on some computer sensor to tell you something as critical as the oil level.

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Looks to be at the front of the motor on the 211.026.

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Terry Allison
N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)

I have a 2006 E320 CDI and there is NO Dipstick. You monitor the oil via electronics.

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thats lame.. i would rather have a dipstick

The E350 V6 seems to have a dipstick. As does the S550. But not the diesel.

E350


S550


E320 Bluetec

Interesting design. In theory if the engine was ever run out of oil and there was no prior indication of low oil level. Mercedes benz could find themselves in small claims court for a new engine. The onus for engine oil level responsibility may now have shifted to them. I am assuming the oil level is tied to an engine shut down system as well. Unknown failure of this system is going to make some owners mad. I can almost see the threads of the future. Lets examine one possible senario. The shutoff circuit has failed with age. You do not know this as you have never had low oil. The low level dash indicator bulb fails. Or if you have a constant level indicator it has failed but still reads normal oil level. You then get low oil between changes because a front seal has started to go or have developed some problem like a bad gasket. You land up with a damaged or seized engine. . It is well recognised that a oil pressure light coming on at speed is sometimes too late. Now who is responsible for this train of events? There is no way you did not apply due dilligence. Then the kill ciruit if functional will not work either. They hopefully have also equiped this engine with a separate engine kill ciruit on the oil pressure function as well for safety. Again if this overall system fails to function properly and it results in even an older out of warranty car loosing an engine it might allow a court proceedure. A simple dipstick assembley would keep them out of court. I think it will be back. How many guys are going to spring for a new computor because the oil level function is out as well as those cars age?

I hope I'm not the only one that hates plastic engine covers...gross

Is it that hard to put in a dipstick? What harm could just having one do?

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1979 280ce AMG (Beginning extreme restoration) -- 141,410 miles
1979 Yamaha Chappy LB50 (Awating new points) -- 1411.6 miles

1981 300d Euro 4 speed -- 188,421 km -- SOLD
1979 300d Euro 4 speed (Sold to Brother) -- 257,000 miles

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Read your manual! I am 90% sure you check it on the dash, my buddies sisters CLK is like that. Its pretty cool, you don't have to pop the hood or risk getting dirt on your nice cloths anymore!

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2007 Tiara 3200

The FSS incorporated a feature where you could check the oil status via a sub-menu. Anyway, switch key-fob to third position, scroll to that menu, while engine is off, the computer measures.
OIL LEVEL OK, PERF SERVICE ON TIME (if you performed a proper servicing and reset the FSS).

But there was always a dipstick to check oil quality/capacity.

Whats next? No cap on the radiator, PS or PB?

Perhaps there is a factory dipstick tool you can buy and jury rig to leave in the silly oil tube they provide so you can check it manually? Its present for some reason.

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N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama

09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA)
09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.)

That's what I've heard. There is SOMETHING like that. I'm not sure if only the MB techs can use it, and its not available for sale to the public.

Actually, I think that tube is there mainly for sucking the oil out with a pump when performing the lubrication service.

It is a trade off to have computer monitored oil level, but it can also be a good thing, all of us dieselers here would of course like a dipstick, (including me) and MB should have put one on the engine, however, the majority of MB owners (who are buying the new cars) don't want to get their Armani suit dirty, and would probably never think of checking it anyways. Its better in that case for the computer to alert them if there is a problem.

If the computer sensor is reliable (which it probably is)...then its no issue. I'd still want a dipstick though.

Also, on the subject of tranny, I thought MB stopped using "sealed for life" transmissions a little while ago because of longevity issues?

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'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

No hood.

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1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

That'd be interesting... , a "sealed for life" engine compartment....

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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)