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dmorrison 12-04-2006 11:48 PM

As long as they are from the same body style, they are the same from front to back.

Dave

dmorrison 12-05-2006 06:43 PM

One additional note. Since I was just bringing a load of lumber home and had to fold the second seat I realized that the trim pieces that are placed in the MBTEX material on the seat bottom to store the headrests are different from the ones on the top of the seat. The bottom ones are round vs oval for the top units.

Dave

MBeige 12-06-2006 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmorrison (Post 1348721)
As long as they are from the same body style, they are the same from front to back.

Dave

Weren't the rods on the rear ones bent? See pics:

http://www.maj.com/gallery/legomech/...s/p1010012.jpg
http://www.maj.com/gallery/legomech/...s/p1010011.jpg

dmorrison 12-08-2006 12:16 AM

Gees, Can't get away with anything on this forum.

My headrests are all the same. My 82 parts book does not show a difference between headrests, only the shape of the headrest which is controled by the foam and cover.

MBeige. If the headrest parts you show are from a factory equiped car then I am wrong.

Having said that. My cars headrests are all the same and work well. Look good and I'm sticking with them:dizzy2:

Dave

MBeige 12-08-2006 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmorrison (Post 1351893)
Gees, Can't get away with anything on this forum.

My headrests are all the same. My 82 parts book does not show a difference between headrests, only the shape of the headrest which is controled by the foam and cover.

MBeige. If the headrest parts you show are from a factory equiped car then I am wrong.

Having said that. My cars headrests are all the same and work well. Look good and I'm sticking with them:dizzy2:

Dave

I did not say you were wrong, I was just trying to confirm whether the bent rods were standard on factory optioned cars (not like mine) or not, since either one works. I have heard a lot of people say the bent rods were standard, but I have yet to see proof from factory spec cars or brochures that point this out.

I think for the wagon, they must be the same, but for the sedan with a more slanted rear seat, the bent rods must be installed. Then again I may be wrong.

justinperkins 12-08-2006 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBeige (Post 1349909)
Weren't the rods on the rear ones bent?

I didn't realize MB had introduced that pre-w124, learning something new...

MBeige 12-08-2006 01:03 AM

Yes, they did. In fact I saw a w116 that had rear headrests also have the bent rods. That's why I was wondering if they were the same bent rods on a factory-equipped w123 sedan/coupe. I know the wagon needs that space so maybe they have the standard headrests.

I'll wait for others to chime in what they know about this. The headrests aren't all that hard to switch to the bent/straight rods anyway.

dmorrison 12-08-2006 02:02 AM

Could be that for the sedan the bent rods were necessary to position the headrest correctly and in the wagon the front seat headrests are used.

Dave

MTUpower 12-08-2006 09:57 AM

Now here's a stumper- do non third row back seats with no head rests have the capacity to add headrests by making a hole and adding the headrests?

nazrat 12-08-2006 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 1352180)
Now here's a stumper- do non third row back seats with no head rests have the capacity to add headrests by making a hole and adding the headrests?

Based on my two wagons (one with 3rd, one without) you'll need the brackets that mount inside the seat to go with the headrests, but otherwise they will swap.

What's interesting about mine is that the wagon with the factory 3rd row seat has two rear seat headrests, not three like I've seen on other wagons.

-Tad

dmorrison 12-09-2006 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 1352180)
Now here's a stumper- do non third row back seats with no head rests have the capacity to add headrests by making a hole and adding the headrests?

Yes

If you can find a donor car for the seat, or purchase it from the dealer ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
Find 3 used headrests for the second row seats.

Go to the dealer and buy the headrest receiver kits to install in the 2nd row seats. The seats are ready to have the receivers pop riveted in place. Cut the material and install the trim fro the poles. And your done.

Dave

MTUpower 12-09-2006 10:15 AM

So I find a yard wagon with the receivers in the seats, take them out and install them in my seats. Then I find or buy the headrests... are they the same as the front seats headrests?

MBeige 12-09-2006 01:06 PM

There is a kit available from MB for the rear headrest mounting for the wagons. I think it's $98 each, more than $62 each for the sedan mounting kit. You'll need two, or three.

The headrest cushion is the same, but the rods are what we're trying to figure out. See quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmorrison (Post 1351960)
Could be that for the sedan the bent rods were necessary to position the headrest correctly and in the wagon the front seat headrests are used.

Dave


dmorrison 12-09-2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 1353173)
So I find a yard wagon with the receivers in the seats, take them out and install them in my seats. Then I find or buy the headrests... are they the same as the front seats headrests?

I have front seat headrests in my 82 300Td wagon installed the second seat backs. That is how every photo I have ever seen shows them.

The picture I've included show a euro model with the back seat headrests in the photo. The bars are different in the sedan.

So for a wagon. Get 3 more front seat headrests. The straight pole, not the bent pole.


Dave

dmorrison 12-10-2006 02:43 PM

Bump

Edited the last post with info about the sedan rear seat headrests.

Dave


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