Getrag Transmission
 

Hello guys,

Just wondering, what is a getrag transmission? I've been told it was mated with a 110 engine.... Will this fit a w123 chassis and match a OM617 engine NA.

Thanks for the advice!

Juan

It's just a brand name like Allison. I believe that the 5 speeds that are so rare were made by them.

Getrags fit both the OM60X and OM61X engines; the 60X version gearbox has a starter wart on the left side of the bellhousing, the 61X version has a wart on the right.

The Getrag 4-speed and 5-speed gearboxs have an alloy case with an integrated bellhousing. The older MBZ 4-speed (and 5-speed) has a cast-iron case with a separate alloy bell housing.

Getrag 4-speed for the OM61X engine application:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomj/images/tranny3a.JPG

Getrag 5-speed in foreground; cast-iron, MBZ 4-speed tranny in background - both OM61X application:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...6&d=1165413823

Thanks for the advice guys! I asked about the transmission because I found this item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160070494514&rd=1

Will this fits a 617 for sure?

I already have the factory 4-speed attached to the 617, so I could use that flywheel and clutch compound.

I've seen pictures of the old 5-speed before but, I don't believe they're a Getrag...isn't that an older MBZ tranny? The side case looks exactly like those on the cast-iron, slope top box.

Can't tell. But, his comment about it fitting a 60X engine is waaay off. No bellhousing made for that. I'd hold out for a Getrag from a Euro 123.

Maybe from a W116 V8? Check the Russian EPC. The only thing I saw with a number starting with 117 was for a 350SE.

No it wont. Says starter is on drivers side. 617 starter is on pass side :(

Get clarification, the tranny in pic has bellhousing on Pass side.

Also don't forget that you will have to get the drive shaft shortened and I hear its hard to find a shop willing to touch MB ds.

That doesn't look anything like either of mine:confused:

I found this thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=112692&highlight=manual+transmission+603

to be useful for finding the right manual for a 603. In any case, the seller updated the side the starter wart is on (passenger side now), but he didn't update his description to say it'll fit a 617 rather than a 60x (which it clearly will not).

FYI:
5-speed Getrag from a 2.3 16v (note Getrag name between shift arms and posn of starter wart))
http://berryhillfarm.us/benz_stuff/G...2point3-16.jpg

Similar Getrag that will fit 616-617-110 engines (note posn of starter wart).
http://berryhillfarm.us/benz_stuff/G...om_616-617.jpg

Ancient 5-speed (missing bellhousing) found in 114/115 and 116 chassis manuals:
http://berryhillfarm.us/benz_stuff/M...14-115-116.jpg

OK, a cursory look in the Russian EPC shows the flat-topped, cast iron 5-speed tranny available in the 280 (W114, M110). If that ebay tranny is depicted correctly, tit should fit onto the back of an OM 616 or 617.

yes, i believe that is what it is. i have one of those in my 280e euro. very very nice tranny. try to get a shifter for it too. they will be hard to find.

tom w

anyone know the gear ratios in this thing? How sweet would this be in a 300D non-turbo?

the gear ratios are very similar to the four speed with direct fourth and an overdrive of about .82.

if you need exact ratios i can get them for you.

tom w

Thanks for all your help, I think I'll go after it. I'll keep you guys updated.