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Old 06-20-2011, 04:14 PM
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This being the case, we need to update the thread. Roadside Assistance, in what I consider to be a very bad PR move even if it was necessary economically, is no longer available free to all MB owners; if you're out of warranty and didn't buy the car from the dealer, you now have to purchase service annually to remain eligible to be assisted for free. You have to pay if you're just "one of us" who never has dealer service now.
Isn't there some sort of "regular customer" clause where you have to buy XXX amount of parts or have it regularly serviced by MB and they'll still cover it? AAA has always been a better deal IMO anyways

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Also, I found out the hard way that AAA roadside assistance will not bring you a jerrycan of fuel, like they will for gas cars. They'll only tow, ostensibly because diesels have a reputation for not restarting after being run out of fuel. I was able to talk the tow truck driver into towing me to a gas station instead of to a repair shop, though, after explaining that my car was easy to re-prime.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:26 PM
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Isn't there some sort of "regular customer" clause where you have to buy XXX amount of parts or have it regularly serviced by MB and they'll still cover it? AAA has always been a better deal IMO anyways
This is what I was trying to say; I didn't word it clearly.

From this site: http://www.mercedesroadside.com/roadside-assistance/side-nav/eligibility-and-coverage

The following things now make a person eligible for the emergency service:
If your vehicle...
  • Is under any Mercedes-Benz warranty (New Vehicle Limited Warranty, Extended Limited Warranty, Certified Pre-owned Warranty)
  • Is out of warranty, and is regularly serviced at an authorized Mercedes-Benz dealership (a single transaction of at least $100 in the 18 months prior to the Roadside call)
  • Was purchased directly from an authorized Mercedes-Benz dealership prior to January 4, 2011 and you still own the vehicle
Otherwise, you now have to pay.

I heard somebody in another thread say that buying parts does NOT constitute buying service, so you can't get around it that way.

No dealer I ever saw knew how to ring up a transaction for only $100. As far as I'm concerned the cost of doing business at a dealer every 18 months FAR exceeds the savings compared to just paying your way out of trouble without ever letting MB find out about it when you do get stuck. It would cost me more to let them change my oil once every 18 months, than it would to just pay a tow truck to help me out of trouble. Ain't worth it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:19 AM
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my $0.02 got me nowhere but stuck in the woods and its getting dark time to find some emergency fuel!

[80% +/-] used engine, trans, what ever oil that burns - [20% +/-] Diesel mix Temp / Viscosity just be sure it your mix isn't too thick, if the fuel pump can't pump it your S.O.L.

I have found that used motor oil + diesel = increased HP! all those hydrocarbons. I have regulary run my car on used engine oil + diesel.
I make sure that the oil I use is contaminate free but in a pinch the primary filter can deal with chunky crap for a short distance although water is more of an issue then debris.

[100%] new or used vegetable with warm engine - or during a day when ambient temp is around 70 * F may be hard to start.
I ran out of diesel on a few occasions and just happened to have a few cubes of used oil in my trunk. I had no choice so i poured the cleanest looking oil straight into the tank, primed the fuel pump and drove 16 miles home where it stalled due to a french fry stuck in the fuel filter.

Gasoline and gear oil = disgusting smelling but a running car

if you know your on the verge of running out of fuel find some mysterious liquids to add to your tank BEFORE you run out a very small amount of diesel can go along ways to dilute oils
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Canola Oil. Works like a charm.
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This is what I was trying to say; I didn't word it clearly.

From this site: Error Page

The following things now make a person eligible for the emergency service:
If your vehicle...
  • Is under any Mercedes-Benz warranty (New Vehicle Limited Warranty, Extended Limited Warranty, Certified Pre-owned Warranty)
  • Is out of warranty, and is regularly serviced at an authorized Mercedes-Benz dealership (a single transaction of at least $100 in the 18 months prior to the Roadside call)
  • Was purchased directly from an authorized Mercedes-Benz dealership prior to January 4, 2011 and you still own the vehicle
Otherwise, you now have to pay.

I heard somebody in another thread say that buying parts does NOT constitute buying service, so you can't get around it that way.

No dealer I ever saw knew how to ring up a transaction for only $100. As far as I'm concerned the cost of doing business at a dealer every 18 months FAR exceeds the savings compared to just paying your way out of trouble without ever letting MB find out about it when you do get stuck. It would cost me more to let them change my oil once every 18 months, than it would to just pay a tow truck to help me out of trouble. Ain't worth it.
...would an alignment do it? Most shops don't have the tools to do that right on an older Benz anyway, right? So you might end up at a dealer anyway...
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One should read the MB sheets associated with this on the MB Bevo site:

Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids: Engine Oil, Gear Oil, ATF, Coolant, Brakefluid

Specifically all sheets between 131.0 and 135.0.

In a real pinch I would personally use fresh canola oil from a supermarket, cut with some kerosine or gasoline. Running straight kero would likely be OK.

Id likely dope with TCW-3 2-cycle oils though.
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...would an alignment do it? Most shops don't have the tools to do that right on an older Benz anyway, right? So you might end up at a dealer anyway...
Wheel alignment does qualify as service.


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I ran my 300SD on 100% virgin vegetable oil from Costco for over 6 months in the summer of 2005 when diesel went over $5.00/gallon in Fresno....
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Wheel alignment does qualify as service.
MB of Tacoma quoted me $179+tax to front-end align my '85 300D, about two weeks ago.
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Gasoline and engine oil or gasoline and ATF. Gasoline may make starting difficult when cold because of the much higher octane rating so keep it hot until you can refill with Diesel fuel. The oil mixed with the gasoline is to protect the injection pump. About a 1/2 pint to a gallon like a 2 cycle mix should be OK. A common rail Diesel should run OK on gasoilne without the oil mixed in.

I have a Kubota tractor that ran out of fuel in the woods. I had 2 cycle mix gasoline with me for the chain saw so I put some in the Kubota. It started right up and there was no difference in running except it didn't smoke as much. I don't know how it would start when cold on the gasoline mix because I filled it with Diesel as soon as I got back to the house.

I was in NJ late one night in my 190D and couldn't find a Diesel station and I knew I didn't have enough fuel to get home. So I bought 2 gallons of gasoline which was enough to get home. It was mixed with about 5 gallons of Diesel fuel and there was no appreciable difference in the running of the engine. That was probably the only car than ran 60,000 miles on two gallons of gasoline.

The Army has multi-fuel engines which are really Diesels and they run on a wide of fuels including gasoline, naptha, jet fuel, kerosene and of course Diesel fuel.

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You are correct about the older, no-lomnger-used military multi-fuel engines, but there is a difference: The injectors in the multifuel engines which use injectors (to compare to diesels) are lubricated differently, don't use fuel for lubrication, and are made to be replaced about every 25,000 miles.

This is obviously not true for the diesels.

A long time ago, I read several items in a MB ponton diesel technical advisory (written about 1959):

- If you use gasolihne as a fuel (which they did in winter to thin the mix) never use more than 10-15%, and NEVER use premium . In those days, vanadium was used as an additive to premium and it apparently is hard enough to wear some injector parts. I don't know if this is still true.

If you use oil, the best kind to use is any straight oil without additives, like 20W or 30W, NOT multigrades, because of the additives.

If you use ATF, it should be a Dexron like ATF, not a Type F ATF, because the Dexron has more fatty solids which luibricate better. Remember, you're probably going to be cutting this with something.

Do not use alcohol, because of its properties as a grease-cutter, i.e. to disassociate long chain polymer oil molecules.

Any oil such as peanut oil, vegetable oil, banana oil, without additives, can be used, with varying degrees of success. Rudolf Diesel made his engine to run on peanut oil, that shgould tell you something.

So if the gas station has straight 30W, and some Mazola oil, mix em up in a can with a tiny bit of gas, and you've got a gallon of fuel!
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One should read the MB sheets associated with this on the MB Bevo site:

Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids: Engine Oil, Gear Oil, ATF, Coolant, Brakefluid

Specifically all sheets between 131.0 and 135.0.

In a real pinch I would personally use fresh canola oil from a supermarket, cut with some kerosine or gasoline. Running straight kero would likely be OK.

Id likely dope with TCW-3 2-cycle oils though.
If you didn't know, a spoonful of turpentine added to the mix will raise the cetane number of the fuel from 45 (minimal) to about 51 (resp[ectably normal or so).

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