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CV half shaft is broken - Update: Few more questions
My 83 240D has been making some weird noises for a little while. Today when I pulled into the driveway there was a clunk and although being in gear, the car wouldn't move. I got out and checked under the car, and sure enough my right rear half shaft axle is completely broken. But does the fact that the car doesn't move when I put it into gear necessarily mean that the driveshaft is broken (seperated from the transmission?)?
Edit: Is there any other related maintenence I should do while I'm down there and have the axles off? Also, my driveway is on a slight slope (with the car facing uphill). Is it too dangerous the lift the car up here? I plan on choking the tires, using a floor jack and stands, and some cinder blocks for extra insurance. Is that enough? Last edited by enginenr9; 06-04-2007 at 06:18 PM. |
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No. It means your differential is working.
The spider gears inside it will transfer power to the wheel with the least resistance. Since one CV is completely broken, it's the least resistance. |
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I bought my 84 in this condition. My half shaft was not actually broken, it just came unbolted.All 6 bolts were still there, so I bolted it back together and have about 3k on it since then . Not bad for buying a car with a "bad transmission"
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Thanks for the replies. My other question then is how hard is replacing a CV half shaft for a weekend warrior. I think my most difficult job up 'till now was the starter in the same car (83 240D).
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It's not bad...Ive done it and im pretty much a total newbie. It just takes some time for us newbies...lots of questions, lots of referring back and making sure everything is going ok...'am I really supposed to be yanking on this' etc.
Theres a great thread on this started by Jeremy4858(may have the number slightly off). I used the instructions off of his thread to get the job done. I highly reccomend CVJ axles in denver for a new half shaft (or both while youre in there). They will also help you over the phone if you have questions. dd
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Its not hard at all. One bolt in the middle of the rotor holds one end off and there's a clip inside the diff holding that end in. I think it took me about two hours total, and half an hour of that was spent just cleaning off the diff cover to get to the bolts.
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I haven't done this job yet but arent the LATER 123 Axel halves bolted to the outside of the differential and the early ones C-clipped INSIDE the differential?
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You know what, thats funny because all of our 123's (check sig) have the C clip axle. I heard the cut off date for C clips was 1982? Maybe along the line they all got replaced? Who knows for sure?
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Like I said, I have never done one and figure my times gota be getting close to up. I pulled the eng/tranny out of a 82 240D (build date 10/81) a couple weeks ago and then pulled the two half axles with the differential (all together) for spare parts. It was the C clip type, I assume, as I didn't see any bolt heads on the outside. Actually it looks just like my "85".
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Now that I'm on summer break and have time I finally got around to ordering a pair of axles from CVJ. I have a couple more questions though:
Is there any other related maintenence I should do while I'm down there and have the axles off? Also, my driveway is on a slight slope (with the car facing uphill). Is it too dangerous the lift the car up here? I plan on choking the tires, using a floor jack and stands, and some cinder blocks for extra insurance. Is that enough? |
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I would try and find some wood which would be better "insurance" for blocking.
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Cinder blocks are no good.
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click http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=166160 and read post 5. Do a search on cider blocks on this forum.
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when I bought the 85 10yrs ago, I had a clinking sound come out of the
R/R. darn axle was going. so I had them do both sides, figguring the other side was just as old. these axles were the updated ones. so now the diff doesn`t have to come apart, just unbolt from the outside. Just had to replace the R/R again . I think I detect a clunking again, the other side now???. charlie
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-sway bar links -rear sway bar bushings -you probably want to replace your differential side seals -rear differential mount These are all going to be easier to replace during the axle job. After you are done and testing the new axles, check your e-brake and adjust if necessary. You will need in addition to the axles: -2 new C-clips that hold the axle into the diff -2 new special washers that hold the axle to the wheel hub -2 new diff side seals Do you has the FSM? The article on replacing axles is excellent and easy to follow. dd
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Thanks for all the excellent advice. I have another followup question, where can I get the following online:
-2 new C-clips that hold the axle into the diff -2 new special washers that hold the axle to the wheel hub I can't seem to find these on fastlane (?) Thanks in advance |
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