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Old 04-02-2007, 12:05 AM
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79 300d won't go forward after getting hot

I recently purchased a 1979 300d with auto tranny problems for $250. Here are the symptoms. First day, the car flares 1-2 and 3-4. I drove about an hour before it go hot and would not go forward. I decided to jack it up and look under it. I read many post of possible b2 failure. This is the tranny with four bolts on the pan. I noticed atf all around the pan. I cleaned the b2 pistion cover off to check for leaks. The fluid level is full. I decided to take a test drive. I only made it 2 miles before the tranny got hot and would not move. While waiting for tranny to cool off, I checked the fluid again. Full. When the tranny cools off it is off to the races again for another 2 miles. Is this tranny toast or can it be saved? What should I check or replace next?


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Old 04-02-2007, 12:11 AM
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I know that a tranny won't go forward if it does not have enough fluid in it. And you said yours has a substantial leak. It could be as simple as the drain pan gasket. But that would not explain why it still goes forward when it is cold. Have you checked the fluid level?
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:13 AM
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forgot to include that!!

I did check the fluid. It is full.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:33 PM
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which transmission

I alos have not been able to locate vacum to the transmission. Are there some that do not use vaccum?
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:42 PM
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Try changing the filter also.

Did the car sit for a long time before you bought it?

An old Pontiac with the TH400 tranny did that to me as well. Turned out the car sat for 2 years, and the seals dried out. Cold fluid would let it build pressure to move, once hot, the fluid was pumped around and through the seals, resulting in a no go when hot. A tranny rebuild solved that.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:43 PM
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Early cars do not use vacuum...I believe '79 is around the transition year.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:50 PM
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I alos have not been able to locate vacum to the transmission. Are there some that do not use vaccum?
instead of a vac modulator, look for hard linkage that goes from the throttle linkage behind the ip to the passenger's side of the transmission. easy to recognize because the arm that goes across the top of the trans has a spring-loaded adjustment bit on it.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:37 PM
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Being that it does not have vaccum. How would you adjust for flare?
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:33 PM
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You're overheating the transmission. Eventually it will not come back. If it's low on fluid, and gets over heated there'll surely be trouble..
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Your senario unfortunatly is not very good in my opinion. You can pull the transmission filter and try first it but your best probable solution is to get a good used transmission.
An automatic dropping out after reaching operating temperature is not that uncommon. You might want to speak to a good practising auto transmission rebuilder for an opinion on the probable exact internal common cause. Operating fluid pressure probably is getting too low to function after the transmission fluid warms up and thins out. It is not unusual to let the car sit for 10-15 minutes and the function restores for a short while.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:09 PM
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You're overheating the transmission. Eventually it will not come back. If it's low on fluid, and gets over heated there'll surely be trouble..
The fluid is full. I presume that is thinning and leaking internally.
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:19 AM
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thick fluid

Is there any fluid or treatment that will not allow the fluid to thin. Basically, Is there a thick solution?

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