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JimmyL · #16 04-19-2007, 12:21 AM

This is what Harbor Freight Tools if for. They aren't mechanic's worthy (especially the whiney ones)

, but they are great for us "hacks". I keep 1/4 13mm, deep and shallow 3/8, deep and shallow 1/2, wrenches of same, several styles, etc....
Cheap tools have their place, and a cheap tool is better than not having an expensive one......

Your results may vary......

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Originally Posted by Cervan

lol he said long neck lol.....

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pawoSD · #17 04-19-2007, 12:24 AM

The "Great Neck" brand tools seem to be pretty precise/rugged, at least the sockets are. My 13mm deep socket fits perfectly on nuts/bolts, and shows no signs of wear on the inside, even after countless uses. I think it was like $3.49.

I also have some Diff-Plug removal sockets of the same brand from autozone. A set of 3, including the MB-fitting size....was like $7 I nearly lifted the rear end of the car off the ground with that socket + breaker bar + floor jack, and it never failed.

Tool Force from Menards seem to be well made also.

"Shop Force" tools from Lowes are not however, they're hit or miss, and are made of recycled kia's, so they wear out. Don't buy them.

I work there (one week left thankfully, got a new job), and we have to use the "store use" shop force tools....I've had wrenches and sockets that don't even FIT onto a bolt they are supposed to.

pawoSD · #18 04-19-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cervan

lol he said long neck lol.....

Actually I said "Great Neck" which is the brand of the tools at Autozone.

Are you falling asleep at the computer? Have some coffee.

dmorrison · #19 04-19-2007, 12:50 AM

I know what you mean. I have 13mm in Sears 1/2 drive, 3 sets of Harbor Freight 1/2 drive, 2 sets of 1/4 drive and regular Sears box wrench, A HF "S" wrench, stubby, U shaped and 5 degree rachet wrench and you always seem to be looking for the 13MM wrench or socket.

It is a organization problem as far as I'm concerned. I just wish my garage was better organized.

I'm going to start a post of garage organization, actually two posts.One for tool boxes/cabinets and one for overall garage setup.

For Mercedes it important to have the following
8mm
10mm
12mm
13mm
15mm
17mm
19mm
24mm
and 46mm ( at least for the fuel screen )

So why does HF include an 18MM 5 degree wrench in there kit and not a 19MM.

Dave

Shorebilly · #20 04-19-2007, 05:40 AM

I have complete sets of sockets in 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 drives with extra stuff like wobble drives, Allen & Torx sockets (and a set of the Torx with the hole in the center) and some other special sockets...both metric and standard.....I also have complete sets of combination wrenches both metric and standard with multiples of commonly used sizes.....metric would be 10, 13, 14, 17, and 19.......and a set of open end wrenches in both metric and standard......as well as an assortment of "custom bent" wrenches for those special jobs......

My tools are from various manufacturers......Snap-On, MAC, SK, Craftsman, Williams, Proto, Kobalt, Husky, Blackhawk, Gedore, Hazlet, etc.......

SB

Note: I also have a collection of various sized adjustable wrenches and channellock pliers...lol...

#21 04-19-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Ironically....my 3/8 drive craftsman 13mm socket disappeared long ago....so I have been left to either use my 1/2 drive one + adapter, (I have a nice full set, haven't lost one yet!

) or my trusty "GreatNeck" brand 13mm deep socket that I bought at autozone in a pinch. I've used it probably hundreds of times...every oil change, all over the place. Kinda weird, I spent all that money to have a large set of quality craftsman tools, but the socket I use most (with my craftsman ratchet none the less) is a cheapo brand.

I need to get a complete set of craftsman 3/8 drive metric sometime to compliment my 1/2 drive set.

However, they're like $30-40

We did just buy a 1/4 drive set from craftsman last saturday, 5-14mm....$30

I'd buy snap-on....but hey, I only have SO much $$$

I used to buy nothing but Snap-On. The biggest problems with them however, are.

1.) They're no better quality, or fit than Craftsman anyways.

2.) You can never find, or get a hold of the Snap-On guy, in his goofy looking truck, when you either need a tool, or need to replace or repair one.
I find it much easier, to simply deal with Craftsman, and be done with it.

vstech · #22 04-19-2007, 12:50 PM

I about spit out my lunch when I read that the fit of snap-on is no better than the fit of craftsman... um WHAT?
have you ever used a snap on open end wrench? UNIVERSES apart in fit and quality.
craftsman uses cold steel for all their sockets (I actually work in the plant that makes them... amazing tech really) snap-on forges all their tools.
but a lost quality tool is not anywhere near as good as a cheap tool in the box.
john

Shorebilly · #23 04-19-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

I about spit out my lunch when I read that the fit of snap-on is no better than the fit of craftsman... um WHAT?
have you ever used a snap on open end wrench? UNIVERSES apart in fit and quality.
craftsman uses cold steel for all their sockets (I actually work in the plant that makes them... amazing tech really) snap-on forges all their tools.
but a lost quality tool is not anywhere near as good as a cheap tool in the box.
john

Some of the Snap-On open end wrenches have what used to be called "Flank Drive" or something similarly sounding.....anyhow, they have little groves in the flanks of the wrench that actually grab the nut better than a lot of box wrenches do......also, they have a style of "speed wrench" that is sort of a half open end with a hook and a flank drive end, I purchased some of these on an 'as needed" basis and have been wishing that I had sprung for entire sets....the style that I own is now discontinued (open end and hooked end, vs double hooked ends)......

SB

SirNik84 · #24 04-19-2007, 07:07 PM

I had a great set of Craftsmen tools. the i went to college and put them all in a set of boxed in the back of my toyota so i could use them in my classes...

then one easter morning i got up to get my car to go to my moms and it was gone! they stole my car for my tools. i got another toyota for $80 but i'm still buying tools to replace what was stolen.

I now have an old suitecase full of Harbor Freight tools. and i can never find anything. i hate my tools. but those are just the tools i use... i actuly have a large stockpile of new craftsmen tools in my dads basement waiting for the day i don't live in an apartment, and get to have my tools in my garage. but until then the tools stay stashed unwraped in their boxes.

winmutt · #25 04-19-2007, 07:17 PM

Pawn shops are a great source of odd and end sockets. I usually get away with whatever I need for free.

BTW I just got a cheap set of ratcheting closed end wrenches. I will def be getting the nice set. SOOOOO much better for general wrenching.

maddogg20 · #26 04-19-2007, 08:34 PM

Funny it was mentioned, but I have a few great neck sockets in with all my craftsman stuff and to be completely honest, they have been nothing but great tools for me. They take a heck of alot of torque, and I still haven't broken one yet, and the nice thing is that if you break one u can take it to any autozone and get a new one for free, and some of the autozones are 24 hours, which is great for those all night engine projects.

Just my .02