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Old 02-27-2008, 03:25 PM
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Here is how you glow an old "cat"

They did have a glow procedure Juan, but not with glow plugs. Glowing meant you fired up the gas pony engine and glowed that exhaust into the intake manifold. Then when they were running good, the pony that is, you pulled the choke back on it and pull in a batch of raw gasoline, another aid too starting those old beasts on a cold, cold morning.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:03 PM
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They did have a glow procedure Juan, but not with glow plugs. Glowing meant you fired up the gas pony engine and glowed that exhaust into the intake manifold. Then when they were running good, the pony that is, you pulled the choke back on it and pull in a batch of raw gasoline, another aid too starting those old beasts on a cold, cold morning.
Wow, great piece of info! I'm not surprised the guy almost emptied the starting fluid bottle in the intake manifold Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

So, how long do you think diesel can sit?
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:53 PM
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They did have a glow procedure Juan, but not with glow plugs. Glowing meant you fired up the gas pony engine and glowed that exhaust into the intake manifold. Then when they were running good, the pony that is, you pulled the choke back on it and pull in a batch of raw gasoline, another aid too starting those old beasts on a cold, cold morning.
Who the hell told you that?!! All sorts of cat engines use glowplugs and the pony motor was used to rotate the crankshaft and thats it! I'm told by an old Cat mechanic I work with in really cold climates they used to pull the compression release and let the pony motor crank the engine over for a while before letting it start.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:11 AM
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they used to pull the compression release and let the pony motor crank the engine over for a while before letting it start.
Years ago, I had an old outboard boat motor from the early fifties. When you were starting it, it had a compression release valve that would release some of the pressure until it got going. I was a teenager back then and I remember thinking, wow, cool design.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:57 AM
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Years ago, I had an old outboard boat motor from the early fifties. When you were starting it, it had a compression release valve that would release some of the pressure until it got going. I was a teenager back then and I remember thinking, wow, cool design.
You know, I wish my Honda outboard had something like that. I know the newer ones do, but this ours is like a '94 or something. It's a 4-stroke 25hp 3-cylinder pull starter. Half the people I know can't start the darn thing cold . However, I can start the backup motor, the Mercury 2-stroke 25hp 2-cylinder pull starter, with one arm...
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I say burn it. What's it going to do in the worst case scenario? Plug up some filters.
If I recall correctly, that Volvo engine has problems delivering enough oil to the head.
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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Exactly.

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The worst that could happen is you'll ruin the injector pump, injectors, cylinders and pistons.
Not as bad but still a pain, it won't start and you'll be chasing your tail. Or you'll be running through fuel filters.
Bacteria and fungi metabolize the fuel and change the composition. One of the byproducts is organic acids which attack metals. If you think microbes don't "eat" petroleum, why do they use them to help clean up oil spills?
Even if you kill everything with biocide, the dead bugs are still in the tank and will goo up the works.
Not to mention a layer of water in the tank isn't good for anything.
Save yourself a lot of headaches and clean the tank.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:59 PM
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Don't shoot me, I'm new to diesels (I don't even take possession of my car until Thursday!), but it looks like the discussion is going back-and-forth replete with opinion and a paucity of evidence. It is an interesting problem and I think an important one so I did a Google search to see what other folks think.

I can't speak to the veracity of these links but I think they offer additional insight.

http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing/machinery-manufacturing/401946-1.html

http://theepicenter.com/tow021799.html



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