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Old 03-30-2008, 04:48 PM
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Can a 5 speed manual trans be mated to the 4 speed shifter/linkages?

If a 5 speed manual trans was to be installed into a W115 with an existing 4 speed manual, do the shifter rods and shifter assembly need to be modified and or is the 5 speed setup unique?
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:47 PM
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It is unique.
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:52 PM
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How common are these 5-speeds anyways? I was just on Wikipedia looking and the info on the W123 and saw that it came with that tranny, and would really like one in the SD. What kind of HP could these trannys take? Quite awhile ago Twizted sent me a PM about the 4-speed install on his SD and said it was near effortless, just extend the d-shaft and the pedal assy near bolted right in.
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:54 PM
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How common are these 5-speeds anyways?
You have about the same odds as finding one of these.
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Old 03-30-2008, 06:11 PM
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You have about the same odds as finding one of these.
How about one with lips too?
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:43 PM
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They are quite rare. It looks like the rods might be made to work with changes but the shifter is unique to the five speed.

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Old 03-30-2008, 08:48 PM
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I'd assume if one were lucky enough to find one you'd take all accessory parts of course. This tranny would probably be mostly found in Europe then...?
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They show up on ebay.de sometimes. You would have to REALLY want it though, with the exchange rate and shipping across the ocean.

http://cgi.ebay.de/5-gang-Getriebe-mercedes-W123-717-401-aus-230E-SELTEN_W0QQitemZ310007232845QQihZ021QQcategoryZ61166QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l124 7QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:46 PM
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They show up on ebay.de sometimes. You would have to REALLY want it though, with the exchange rate and shipping across the ocean.

http://cgi.ebay.de/5-gang-Getriebe-mercedes-W123-717-401-aus-230E-SELTEN_W0QQitemZ310007232845QQihZ021QQcategoryZ61166QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l124 7QQcmdZViewItem

If you look here this translates to $817.89 for the transmission.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310007232845&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D 310007232845%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1


BTW - Could you use a 5 speed linkages from a gasser? Like a 190E or etc?
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BTW - Could you use a 5 speed linkages from a gasser? Like a 190E or etc?

I'm assuming here, but my guess would be yes. I've been looking at the different chassis models on Wikipedia and they all are listed as having a 5-speed as an option, and I don't think Benz would have multiple different tranny models. Therefore, I'd say all the linkages will be similar if not the same.
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Is that a weld or did a bird ***** on the tranny?

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Old 03-31-2008, 05:01 PM
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Is that a weld or did a bird ***** on the tranny?

Nice... Look closely on the inside.... Is this still worth 800 or so bucks?

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Wow, that shure was expensive. I seem them 5-speeders here at pull-a-parts for about 1500-2500SEK which is about €150-250.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:19 PM
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Wow, that shure was expensive. I seem them 5-speeders here at pull-a-parts for about 1500-2500SEK which is about €150-250.
You could make some money from us here in America if shipping could be done reasonably.
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Would perhaps trying to use the shifter from a W201 do the job?
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