Is there an epidemic of reversed camshaft sprockets in the PI? I would suspect that the typical mechanic could work on 617 engines for several thousand years and not see a reversed sprocket.

There is something wrong with this picture.

There are a few experienced MB mechanics here as there are also a handful of MB's here compared to rice burners.

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what does that mean? are you saying that it's common for the cam sprocket to be reversed? give me a break!
there is NO WAY I would have allowed a timing chain that was rubbing against the block to be re used. also, I would be eyeing the oil pump, tensioners and anything else in there that would be getting iron filings from the wear!

the mechanic reccomended against replacing the chain! HE is responsible. go to HIS boss and get the valves/etc replaced for free!

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My guess is that you haven't done much business in the Philippines.

It doesn't seem uncommon that most humans wouldn't have done much business in the Philippines. What is the point with that one Tango.....

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Unfortunately I've seen some home and backyard mechanics put the upper sprocket on backwards! I bought my 240D this way. Good for me that it was timed wrong and wouldn't start, so I got a great deal since it was not driveable, but I would have replaced the chain.

His point is they dont have the same legal system or better buisness bureau there. Who or what is going to make the shop do any work for free?

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unfortunatly these are interference engines so you'll need the top end of the engine rebuilt and POSSIBLY the pistons. My uncle blew a timing chain on a 617 and I'm not sure the extent of the rebuild, I think it was just the top half

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That's true, it's really hard to force somebody to fix something they messed up on. I've been there, done that, too. I guess the next thing to do now is to have it done right this time. Bong, who did the work if I may ask?

I was also wondering about the sprocket that was not installed properly, and why his answer was like it was a common thing to happen?

The iron filings may already be in the oil pan. Although it has a screen for the oil pump, I would still pull down the pan and check to be sure.

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I guess I'll chime in there, too, Pare'. As implied above, its a bit different dealing with issues like this in Manila. For one, businesses there do not usually have the resource to guarantee their work like they do here in the US. And rather than rely on the legal system, its best to talk and negotiate. I think you will get a lot farther with discussing and negotiating the matter.

With that said, it just too much of a coincidence for the chain to break right after the work was done. We can theorize all we can as to the cause but imho, it had to have something to do with what they did. If that happened here, it safe to say that the shop will make it right for you.

Where did you have this done? Was this the MB dealer? My brother-in-law brings his 260E and 190E to a small shop in New Manila. He seems to be happy with the work but I don't think he has had anything major done.

Correct me if I am wrong but because of how cheap labor rates are in Manila, not too many MB owners really tinker with their vehicles, right?

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I guess it is not common but they already handled a "FEW" cases where they just turn it over without adverse effect.

I also asked about the iron filings and he said that its not a problem since it will be handled by the oil filter. Would that be the case?

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