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Old 05-12-2008, 06:44 AM
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4-speed stick into 300SD

So I did a bit of searching but didn't see too much information on swapping a 4-speed manual (from a 240D) into a 300SD. Lots of stuff about going into 300D's... but would a 4-speed from the 240 fit a 617.950?

I have access to a 240D parts car with a good 4-speed manual transmission for $300 (for the whole parts car). That's why I ask.

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Old 05-12-2008, 06:55 AM
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:01 AM
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So I did a bit of searching but didn't see too much information on swapping a 4-speed manual (from a 240D) into a 300SD. Lots of stuff about going into 300D's... but would a 4-speed from the 240 fit a 617.950?

I have access to a 240D parts car with a good 4-speed manual transmission for $300 (for the whole parts car). That's why I ask.
The stick tranny from a 123 will bolt into a 126 chassis. I have read here that the pedal cluster will work with slight modifications that are not too difficult. a stick in a 126 with a diesel is on my list of things to do.

With the price of fuel I am even mulling over a 240d motor in one.

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A 240 into a W126? that ought to be a rocket on wheels .
might need a litle help

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:49 PM
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A 240 into a W126? that ought to be a rocket on wheels .
might need a litle help

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I think he's wanting to swap the transmission only.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:20 PM
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With the price of fuel I am even mulling over a 240d motor in one.
Sounds like a motor to me.... In an SD? Thats a bit much if you ask me, better off with a CD!
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:10 PM
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actually, it was posed that the 240SD would be slightly better on economy than a 240D would be... due to improved aerodynamics. the weight diff is very minor. and could be offset by removing some ballast... like seats or such...
anyway, I would not want a 240SD myself...
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When considering the manual swap into either the W123 or W126 car with an OM61X engine, the critical issue will be sourcing the driveshaft, trans crossmember, and the linkages.

I've done several trans swaps in the past, and most is a plug and play. The bodies are preconfigured for any combination, but the above mentioned stuff is unique to each combination, and can be unobtainium......

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Old 05-12-2008, 08:29 PM
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

And no, I'm NOT planning on sticking a 240 engine into an SD. Just a manual transmission swap.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:52 PM
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My dad and I went and test drove a 240D manual with 158k on it today, they are SO SLOW. We've written them off for buying. No way. The car was in pretty good shape but had some issues....and the seller wanted too much...so we passed it up...and mostly because it was SO slow....19 seconds to 60....thats an eternity.

We want another 300D/300SD, or 190D 2.5.....or maybe even an SDL or '87 300D.....no slow ones though.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:54 PM
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

And no, I'm NOT planning on sticking a 240 engine into an SD. Just a manual transmission swap.

But I am.

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Old 05-12-2008, 11:59 PM
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All I can say is.... Why?!

Why have a car that is incredibly under powered?
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:42 AM
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They are underpowered but aren't really that bad if you rev them out all the way. They sound kind of tractor like though.. and the low end torque of the 617 at 2000 rpm is too good to give up.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:24 AM
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All I can say is.... Why?!

Why have a car that is incredibly under powered?
Fuel economy.

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