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That post reminded me of something. I'd order a new VIN-coded lock cylinder from the dealer FIRST, before doing ANYTHING else. It will come with a new laser-cut, steel key. Sometimes just a new, fresh key will get the old tumbler to turn one last time. And you need the new tumbler anyway, so you should attempt this BEFORE spending 3-5 hours cutting, grinding, and drilling the old lock ass'y out. (Or if a shop is doing it, think of $300-$500 labor you might save.)
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That sucks, its not worth trying to nurse these tumblers. If they start to fail just order a new one, remove it and start the car with a screwdriver for a couple days if you have to.
Once it jams a 10 minute $80 job turns into a full day $500 job.
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I had the same problem with my 92 300E about one month ago. My shop said that it would be an expensive lesson for not bringing it in sooner. I had it towed and expected to be ready for the worst. I happened to have the spare ignition key that I kept in my wallet. It is very short, about 11/2" and does not have the black leather type end for a ring. I gave it to the main mechanic and the first time he inserted into the lock PRESTO it unlocked and he kept it open until he got the new lock assembly and key. MB keeps these in stock and the new key fits your doors etc,. Cost about $265.xx as apposed to about $600.00+.
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thanks tarheel, I have that key and tried it also before it was towed. No luck
wont have the car back until this Friday
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So I was talking to the guy at the shop the other day, I stopped by with vibrating sander to try and get the key to turn. He already had it apart.
He said this is a 'wear and tear' item. I said well how come my 95 Nissan has no problems and I've never heard of this before, he replied that they do BMW and MB all the time and to buy a Japanese car. Wrong answer dumbass!
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Sounds like a good answer to me, they never seem to break on the appliance cars.
Maybe because they use brass keys and don't wear the tumbler as bad?
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I'd rather replace a $5 key than a complete lock assy.... German engineering my ass
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Lots of that on European cars, I prefer to think of it as charm.
And they all leak something...
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Well $791 later I can turn my key and they also replaced the belt and adjusted the tensioner which fixed my squeal and saved my probably $200 in parts I was going to replace myself.
My question now is- is this lock failure something a dealer should be aware of, enough that when I paid for a pre-purchase inspection they should have noticed the key not turning smoothly and alerted me to that?
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What is the recommendation on when to change the lock cylinder before problems occur? Mileage, age of car? I've already replaced the cylinder on my 240D, but the 300SD with 150k miles still has the original as far as I know.
John
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The length of time varies widely from car to car (owner to owner?). My '96 E300D (254,000 miles) and my '85 300D-T (232,000 miles) both have the original locks, AFAIK. No hint of trouble with either. Jeremy
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Brass keys will cause them to fail sooner, make sure you only use steel keys!
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