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mobetta 01-15-2009 05:51 PM

Twenty-two below zero
 
this morning, and she fired right up!!:eek::D

pumped the pedal 3 times, set it at 1/4 of the way down, one glow cycle.

I didn't need to go anywhere, but i was outside getting the Big Booster for the neighbors who's suzuki wouldn't start. Decided to give it a try. Glad I dont need to do that everyday.

punky 01-15-2009 06:09 PM

I didn't know this was the Mercedes Sci-Fi forum. To believe that I would need affadavits' from 3 witnesses. Possibly a blood and skin sample from said witnesses. Video and oral testimony would also be needed.;)

Cr from Texas 01-15-2009 06:25 PM

Does pumping the pedal do anything?

It does on a carburator due to the pump inside the carburator.

vstech 01-15-2009 06:26 PM

is this with or without a plug in heater?
-22... brr. F? Holy frejolies!

mobetta 01-15-2009 07:25 PM

I am still in america, I think??- so that is -22*F.

no block heater, or I wouldn't of bothered posting. synthetic oil, proper timing, valves adjusted, and 400+psi all helps.
I will say that last winter I had an instance where it did not start at slightly higher temps(lower -teens), but for whatever reason, she lit off today.

I dont really know why we are supposed to pump the pedal-maybe to free up all the linkages?
but that is what the OM says to do.

I wont be offended if ya'all dont believe me, I know what really happened. and I'm sorry your car doesn't start as well.:P

fwiw, this car has been burning WVO (2 tank) for about 50K miles, too.

stay warm. keep your stick on the ice.

Brian Carlton 01-15-2009 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84500SEL (Post 2079630)
............ 20x50 oil.

That's your problem...........crank speed is too slow in the winter.

blackestate 01-15-2009 08:29 PM

no matter what happened. -22 is cold! glad the ol girl roared to life for ya

Dee8go 01-15-2009 08:33 PM

I feel sorry for you. How can you live somewhere that gets so cold?

Yeah, it's great that your car started right up, but geezaloo! -22!

Scott98 01-15-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobetta (Post 2079584)
I400+psi all helps.

Those are the compression numbers you'd see on a new engine. Is yours rebuilt? Nonetheless, still an impressive feat!

Scott

Brian Carlton 01-15-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84500SEL (Post 2079641)
i dont know its spinning pretty fast .

i just ran 20x50 cause the motor has lots of miles on it.

or what do you run ? in high mileage cars?

thanks

I do........it's not spinning fast enough.

It's OK in the summer.........not OK in the winter.

5W-40 synthetic..........all seasons.

Graplr 01-15-2009 08:49 PM

Awesome Mo. When was the last time you started it before this afternoon? If you fired it this afternoon it wasn't -22F was it? I thought it was in the single digits this afternoon.

Mine didn't start this morning. I even had it plugged in, but I don't think I was getting much juice from the outlet. I did cold start it at -3F last week. Then today after it fired fine the rest of the day sitting in the cold, but it was warmer later today.

My Webasto was out of gas as I didn't think I would need it since I knew I'd be plugging it in. So I pushed it into the heated garage and let it sit for a bit, then it started.

EDIT: Just saw you stated this morning, not this afternoon. Guess it really was -22F. My temp gauge read -27.5(C) this morning. Tonight on the way home it read -25.0C

Bio300TDTdriver 01-15-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobetta (Post 2079477)
this morning, and she fired right up!!:eek::D

pumped the pedal 3 times, set it at 1/4 of the way down, one glow cycle.

I didn't need to go anywhere, but i was outside getting the Big Booster for the neighbors who's suzuki wouldn't start. Decided to give it a try. Glad I dont need to do that everyday.

So what was the temperature of the garage you had it in? :D

mobetta 01-15-2009 09:44 PM

she'd been sitting since sunday while I waited for another pair of calipers.

It was this morning- I looked at the thermometer and it was at -22, then I helped the neighbors get their car started, then tried mine- so maybe it warmed up a degree or 2 in the meantime.

and by single digits, you mean single digits BELOW zero. we haven't seen the friendly side of zero since monday. but sunday is supposed to be 30*F, almost record breaking.

A friends 300 didnt go this AM either, even plugged in 4 hours. his compression is all over the place, though. 170-380 psi, seems to have stuck rings??????

I have no records of the car previous to 266K when I got it, so the engine may have been gone over. I have no reason to think that it has, but the Timing chain shows almost zero stretch w/ dial gauge, but I did not pull the cam pulley to see if/how far offset the key is. and the phenomenal compression.

My car did have a webasto at one time, so maybe it never had a cold start for the first 250K.

Ryan- the webasto wont help w/out fuel!! glad you got it running again.

I will say that oil makes a HUGE difference. I had no start at +7*F with 15-40 rotella. of course, that was my first winter driving a diesel benz, so some of it could be operator error. but I drained it later that day and had (almost) no more issues with synthetic oil- 0-40 M1 that year, now 5-40 Rotella.

also - one of them cheesy jump boxes has saved my bacon more than once- worth every penny of the $20 on spring clearance.

Graplr 01-16-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobetta (Post 2079714)
she'd been sitting since sunday while I waited for another pair of calipers.

It was this morning- I looked at the thermometer and it was at -22, then I helped the neighbors get their car started, then tried mine- so maybe it warmed up a degree or 2 in the meantime.

and by single digits, you mean single digits BELOW zero. we haven't seen the friendly side of zero since monday. but sunday is supposed to be 30*F, almost record breaking.

A friends 300 didnt go this AM either, even plugged in 4 hours. his compression is all over the place, though. 170-380 psi, seems to have stuck rings??????

I have no records of the car previous to 266K when I got it, so the engine may have been gone over. I have no reason to think that it has, but the Timing chain shows almost zero stretch w/ dial gauge, but I did not pull the cam pulley to see if/how far offset the key is. and the phenomenal compression.

My car did have a webasto at one time, so maybe it never had a cold start for the first 250K.

Ryan- the webasto wont help w/out fuel!! glad you got it running again.

I will say that oil makes a HUGE difference. I had no start at +7*F with 15-40 rotella. of course, that was my first winter driving a diesel benz, so some of it could be operator error. but I drained it later that day and had (almost) no more issues with synthetic oil- 0-40 M1 that year, now 5-40 Rotella.

also - one of them cheesy jump boxes has saved my bacon more than once- worth every penny of the $20 on spring clearance.


Yes, I meant got up to single digits BELOW zero. We haven't been above zero since the beginning of the week.

As soon as I got it running yesterday I stopped and filled up the Webasto tank!

bluebenz 01-16-2009 11:42 AM

-34 Celcius this morning in eastern Canada, about -30 F.

The BMW started but the 300D is parked in her warm garage until spring!


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