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My gas mileage just started to drop like a rock
1982 W123 300TD. Solid maintenance. Regapped valves 6,000 miles ago, when I also had all filters changed.
Change oil every 3,000 miles. I was getting 30-ish mpg on the highway, 26-ish in the city for a 28 overall mix since I bought the car. Then about a month ago, the mileage between fillups started dropping like a rock. 24. Then 25. I just went to Salt Lake and back, and got 24, 22 and 23 on my tanks. What gives? Some variables I've considered... Salt Lake is at high elevation. It's started to get kinda cold (car still starts fine, though). One thing I did notice on my last tank fillup was some leakage out of the top of the tank cap. The cap is locked solidly, but it appears that while I'm driving for the first 90 miles or so on a fresh tank some diesel is leaking out of the cap, somehow, and down into the drain hose. There is also some splattered back on the right rear fender. I hadn't checked that when the mileage started dropping, so it might have something to do with it. But how is diesel leaking out and up through the gas cap when it is locked? Any help is appreciated. |
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First off, welcome to the forum.
Second off, you shouldn't put gas into a diesel Mercedes (fuel mileage is the correct term). ![]() As for how fuel is leaking past your cap, like another member said in a similar thread just yesterday, check the rubber gasket on the cap. If it is deteriorated (due to age or using biodiesel) then every time you make a sharp turn to the left fuel sloshes to the right side, surges up the fuel filler tube, and leaks out from under the cap...
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Sticking odometer.
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the latter mileage is about exactly what I get. averaged at 23.7 last I rounded them all up.
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Could be that they switched to winter fuel and you are getting the lower BTU stuff that is less likely to turn to wax in your tank and filters.
Not likely since you are in Idaho and they should have been selling winter fuel for several months now. -Jim
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Winter fuel?
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Hmmm. I'll have to check that against the mile markers on the next trip.
Do you think it's because of the cold? That's the only thing I can think of that's really changed over the least few weeks. Thanks for all of the quick responses. |
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Sticking odometers are a known problem on the 123's. Don't know if cold exacerbates it but it might.
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Every year from January to the end of March, I go from 23 mpg to 20 mpg. Warm winter or cold winter it's always the same, It's got to be the winter mix fuel.
'91 350SD 534,000 '87 300SDL 236,000 '94 SL500 40,000
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Update on 'Mileage Dropping like a rock thread'
From a few days ago. If you recall, I was distressed at having my mileage drop from 28-ish in mixed driving to 23-ish over the past 6 weeks. That's about a 20% drop.
I drove from Idaho to L.A. over the past 2 days. Checked the odometer against the mile markers. It spins a little slow. I marked 98.4 and 98.6 on the odometer (both main odometer and trip meter) against two separate 100 mile highway stints. About 1.5% too low...but not enough to cause the issue. Filled up in Oregon, Nevada (twice). Both times at between 20-35 degrees F and 4000-5000 feet elevation. Tank mileage was 23, 24 and 23. Filled up at the bottom of the drop from Reno to Tracy. That was 44 (!) but it was a downhill run and only about 2 gallons. I discarded that. Then on two fillups to L.A. I got 27 and 26, respectively. So it climbed up again once I got to warmer weather and lower elevation. Although it was clocking 28-ish during the summer in Idaho, where I'm at 2800 feet or so. So somethin's goin on. Different diesel grades for different weather? Elevation and temp? All of the above? |
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I think elevation is a big thing when it comes to fuel milage.
When I drove the FL car from Orlando to Denver last February I was getting 31 in FL, GA and KY. As I started to climb, the mileage dropped. In St Louis and KC, I was getting 27 or so. By the time I reached the CO border I was down to about 25 and here in Denver that car gets about 23-24mpg on a regular basis. Summer fuel gave 1-2mpg more but not enough to make a big deal. Just my insights. . .YMMV.(pun intended)
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theoretically wouldn't the thinner air decrease air resistance which is the main factor against your fuel mileage?
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"Winter diesel" is indeed supposed to result in slightly lower fuel economy. With the thinner air in the Inter-mountain West (and your NA engine is limited to what it can suck into the cylinders with no help from a turbocharger), that might cause a drop of several mpg.
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