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funola 04-10-2009 09:01 PM

If the lid is ruined, drill a hole in the middle and use a slap hammer.

BodhiBenz1987 04-10-2009 09:10 PM

This may be an English-major question, but is there any chance you've somehow created a vacuum in the filter housing? I'm not really sure why that would happen or if it even physically makes sense. Drilling a hole in the lid would fix it then.

TylerH860 04-10-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987 (Post 2170250)
This may be an English-major question, but is there any chance you've somehow created a vacuum in the filter housing? I'm not really sure why that would happen or if it even physically makes sense. Drilling a hole in the lid would fix it then.

I'm able to break the seal with a screw driver, so I don't think that's it. Its getting dark, and I'm getting a bit too frustrated to deal with it any more this evening. Its my younger sister's 21st birthday as well, so I'm showered and heading there.

Ladies and gents the resident idiot has left the building. :o I will start fresh tomorrow. At least I have a few backup rides.

I don't want to have to pay my indy to remove the oil filter housing altogether and replace.

I guess better this happened with me in my driveway then Jiffy Lube. :rolleyes:

Diesel911 04-10-2009 09:18 PM

I'm thinking that there is an O-ring there but it slipped down and got pinched between the lid and the inside of the housing.
The good thing is that since the lid is supposed to seal inside with the O-ring; a few little dings on the lid or top if the filter housing should not have an effect on the sealing as long as the lid sits flat.

oldiesel 04-10-2009 09:23 PM

Try knocking the cap down onto the housing,its at least possible that is cocked and binding on the studs. if its not coming up straight more force probably will not help. Don

Richard Eldridge 04-10-2009 09:46 PM

I think I would be concerned about drilling a hole in the lid, because it will no doubt cause aluminum filings to drop down into the filter body, where they, being non-magnetic, would be quite hard to remove.

Palangi 04-10-2009 09:51 PM

If you can get the studs out, you might be able to rotate the cap to where tou can get a grip on the ears.

tbomachines 04-10-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Eldridge (Post 2170269)
I think I would be concerned about drilling a hole in the lid, because it will no doubt cause aluminum filings to drop down into the filter body, where they, being non-magnetic, would be quite hard to remove.

x2, especially if he has it 1/3 the way out, I would guess the vacuum would have been broken anyways. Good luck Tyler, let us know what happens!

TylerH860 04-10-2009 10:03 PM

that's an idea! They twist out with vice grips?

On my iphone

derburger 04-10-2009 10:06 PM

The oil filter studs will back out if you tighten a nut on them and back them out, vice grips won't really work, I FUBAR'd an oil change the first time but it was breaking off a stud. Try backing out the studs, it sounds like the lid is seized to the studs? You can order new studs from the dealer.

TylerH860 04-10-2009 10:09 PM

that's an idea! They twist out with vice grips?

On my iphone

funola 04-10-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Eldridge (Post 2170269)
I think I would be concerned about drilling a hole in the lid, because it will no doubt cause aluminum filings to drop down into the filter body, where they, being non-magnetic, would be quite hard to remove.

There are techniques to drill to minimize filings such as coating the drill bit with grease to grab the filings. Come to think of it, he shoudn't drill in the middle because of the center shaft in the lid. He has to drill 2 holes, one on each side of the shaft. Find out the size of the screw in the slap hammer (dent puller), get a tap drill for that screw size, drill the holes but do not penetrate, then use the dent puller screw to thread into the hole and puncture through (with grease on the screw), then use the slap hammer a little at a time on each hole alternating so as not to cock the cover. Any filings that gets in can be vacuumed out and mopped up with absorbent towel.

funola 04-10-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by derburger (Post 2170284)
The oil filter studs will back out if you tighten a nut on them and back them out, vice grips won't really work, I FUBAR'd an oil change the first time but it was breaking off a stud. Try backing out the studs, it sounds like the lid is seized to the studs? You can order new studs from the dealer.

Getting the studs out is a good idea if replacement studs are available. I'd use a pipe wrench to get the studs out. Use a good penetrating oil first. Once the studs are out, use a blunt punch and hammer on the cover "ears" and try to rotate it back and forth to break it free.

moon161 04-10-2009 10:29 PM

Remove the housing, pressurize with air.

JimmyL 04-10-2009 10:31 PM

Amazing how many folks told you what probably happened to it because there was no o-ring, even after you clearly stated that the old one was still in there. Reading is a wonderful thing......;)
Your next car should be named the Valdez, because it will no doubt spring an oil leak also. :P I mean, the rest of them have....... :D:D
Even with an old o-ring in there it probably should have sealed. That probably means that it isn't seated correctly or somehow it just didn't get put on squarely, which I'm not sure is even possible.
BTW, sorry I missed your call. Was mowing the pasture and can't hear anything over that tractor, nor feel the vibration. That thing is my most reliable diesel by a mile......
Give me a shout tomorrow if you need to. I'm very curious what could be the issue. :confused:


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