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TylerH860 04-10-2009 07:50 PM

Oil change Fiasco! Emergency!
 
Yes, I'm dumb enough to screw up an oil change.

So, start the car, no oil pressure, and I hear a squirting noise. I shut the car off and see oil gushing from the oil filter housing. Stupid me forgot to replace the o-ring, and so I went to remove the lid, and it wouldn't budge. I jammed, pulled, done everything I can possibly think of and it won't budge.

Any ideas? I talked to my indy and he can't do anything for me until Monday.

TMAllison 04-10-2009 08:03 PM

Tap it up/off with a rubber mallet or screw driver handle???

chetwesley 04-10-2009 08:04 PM

I don't understand - the nuts come off, but the cap won't pull up when you tug on it?

I've had a hard time pulling the cap off before due to either suction from a seal with the oil inside, or just because of the weight of the oil in the filter... but usually a good pull with my fingers prying up around the rim of the lid will do it.

Maybe there is more oil than usual in there, or a sort of seal formed with the rim due to the lack of o ring causing a vacuum making it hard to pull off. :confused:

TylerH860 04-10-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chetwesley (Post 2170197)
I don't understand - the nuts come off, but the cap won't pull up when you tug on it?

Yes, pulling with all my might. Prying with various devices, chiseling with a flat screw driver and hammer... No dice. I'm infuriated.

kerry 04-10-2009 08:12 PM

Start it up. Pressure should push it off. Cover it with a big rag or towel. Can't make that much more of a mess than you already have.

bgkast 04-10-2009 08:15 PM

Rubber mallet

TylerH860 04-10-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2170202)
Start it up. Pressure should push it off. Cover it with a big rag or towel. Can't make that much more of a mess than you already have.

Highly doubtful that the oil pump can exert more force than I can, plus with the amount of oil leaking out, I seriously doubt its creating any kind of pressure to push up on it.

Rubber mallet where? Has nobody ever had this problem?

funola 04-10-2009 08:26 PM

Hey Tyler, you have a knack for baptizing every diesel with engine oil don't ya ? :D

Try loosening the 2 nuts to where they cover the stud threads, then tap on the nuts with a hammer. If that doesn't work, tap all around the side of the cover. Without the o-ring, you may have wedged the cover into the housing.

TylerH860 04-10-2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funola (Post 2170218)
Hey Tyler, you have a knack for baptizing every diesel with engine oil don't ya ? :D

Try loosening the 2 nuts to where hey cover the stud threads, then tap on the nuts with a hammer. If that doesn't work, tap all around the side of the cover. Without the o-ring, you may have wedged the cover into the housing.

The old o-ring should still be there. I'll give it a shot.

funola 04-10-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860 (Post 2170220)
The old o-ring should still be there. I'll give it a shot.

If it doesn't work, try to hook an edge of the cover with a short flat blade screwdriver and tap screwdriver with hammer.

Hatterasguy 04-10-2009 08:45 PM

Sounds like something is bent or jammed. I'd let your indy look at it, if you keep hammering it your probably going to need a new lid. They are just cas aluminum, ie they don't bend they crack.

Maybe without the O ring the shaft went in a bit to deep and got stuck?

turbobenz 04-10-2009 08:45 PM

hammer a flat head screw driver in the side from alternating angles

bgkast 04-10-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerH860 (Post 2170214)
Highly doubtful that the oil pump can exert more force than I can, plus with the amount of oil leaking out, I seriously doubt its creating any kind of pressure to push up on it.

Rubber mallet where? Has nobody ever had this problem?

I don't know about that....100 plus PSI of pressire times how many square inches for that lid. That is a lot of force!

TylerH860 04-10-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 2170236)
I don't know about that....100 plus PSI of pressire times how many square inches for that lid. That is a lot of force!

I run the car for 5 seconds, and it creates a 5 square foot puddle of oil. I'm not going to start it again.

Tried the hammer and screw driver... I can only get to about a third of the housing with all the obstructions. It bends, but doesn't move.

No doubt I've ruined the lid by now, the entire motor was moving from the force I was exerting on it.

funola 04-10-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 2170236)
I don't know about that....100 plus PSI of pressire times how many square inches for that lid. That is a lot of force!

He did say oil was gushing out and no oil pressure.


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