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Question about the filters placed on vacuum lines
A few years ago, I heeded the warning of a MBCA Technical Article and placed a cheapo fuel filter on the vacuum line that runs from the main line to the yellow 3-way valve on my 82 300D. The purpose of the filter would be to catch oil from potential vacuum pump diaphragm failures early enough so that oil wouldn't get into the various vacuum powered accessories. Well, FFW a few years and a few forum searches later. I've determined that I need to install 3 more filters on the various vacuum lines under the hood. I would place them in the following locations.
1. On the vacuum line that branches off from the main line and runs straight to the transmission VCV (there is no branchoff to the EGR since I have my EGR permanently disabled). 2. On the line running from the "ignition switch" to the shutoff valve on the IP. 3. On the vent line that runs to the cabin (the filter in that location would keep dust and debris from getting into the system from the under dash environment). So, what do you say, is adding the extra 3 filters a good idea, or is it just overkill from a guy who's just itching to do some sort of wrenching, albeit cheap and not at all time consuming. Hopefully this won't result in responses as inflammatory as those found in an oil thread.
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why not 1 filter right after the pump?
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The shutoff valve can also leak oil.
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Well, there's a reason to add a filter at the shutoff valve!
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I would even go so far to suggest you try to position these horizontal to provide a place for the oil to pool and more easily be seen. I've had some trouble finding the right connectors to connect the two different sizes.
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If the diaphragm you're talking about is the fuel shutoff valve, then a filter between the shut off valve and the key switch would be a good idea. If you're trying to protect the pump from dust, then a filter at each branch would be needed, but how often to vacuum pumps fail?
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You should install 3 filters.
.1 Coming off the main line from the vacuum pump to the brake booster. Choose one of the lines that tap off the main line. This will inform you of a vacuum pump leak.Yes the vacuum pump is a diaphragm vacuum pump. The door vacuum pump reserviour which holds vacuum for the door locks, the check valve can leak and pull oil into the lines from the main vacuum pump. 2. The shutoff valve. the interior of the IP is bathed in oil. So if the diphram leaks oil it will get into the shut of lines. 3. The transmission line. The transmission modulator could leak and allow transmission fluid into the system. This one I have not done, but it is a potential fluid leak area. Dave
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1970 220D, owned 1980-1990 1980 240D, owned 1990-1992 1982 300TD, owned 1992-1993 1986 300SDL, owned 1993-2004 1999 E300, owned 1999-2003 1982 300TD, 213,880mi, owned since Nov 18, 1991- Aug 4, 2010 SOLD 1988 560SL, 100,000mi, owned since 1995 1965 Mustang Fastback Mileage Unknown(My sons) 1983 240D, 176,000mi (My daughers) owned since 2004 2007 Honda Accord EX-L I4 auto, the new daily driver 1985 300D 264,000mi Son's new daily driver.(sold) 2008 Hyundai Tiberon. Daughters new car Last edited by dmorrison; 04-20-2009 at 08:41 PM. |
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It can NOT hurt, makes failure diagnosis easy, and reduces or eliminates cleanup. "Hen's tooth" 1985 300D vacuum filter dark black http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1265296 |
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One of the filters saved me by telling me that the shutoff valve had a torn diaphragm (leaking oil as predicted).
I was also contemplating on adding a filter to those mentioned areas. The EGR lines also caused the filter to turn black (soot).
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Im sold, definitely worth the small trouble of cutting the lines and putting the 99 cent filters in.
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