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Johnt49 · #16 08-12-2009, 04:38 PM

Hey johninva,
Sorry this degenerated into a pi$$ing contest. Hope you're able to get it fixed without needing another compressor. Just remember that leaving R12 in a system with a known leak is also a violation (must be removed using approved recovery system), so you might want to think twice before posting your findings here if you're not in full compliance with the law as big brother may be watching.

Cervan · #17 08-12-2009, 04:43 PM

wow lol, ive dumped enough r12 and 134a into the air. it really doesnt matter does it? who is going to know? really it doesnt matter unless somone turns you in and even then they would need evidence. anyways.. i guess its all your morals on how the freon affects the ozone... i really think it doesnt matter but whatever..

kingdoc1 · #18 08-12-2009, 07:04 PM

Back to the original subject matter....

You could probably just clean up the sharp edges on that gouge using a maroon scotchbrite pad, just enough to be sure the new oring won't get cut.

You can use nitrogen to pressurize the system and check for leaks, and you can vent it into the atmosphere harmlessly. No ozone would be depleted and no one has to go to jail.

#19 08-12-2009, 08:13 PM

If yoiu have access to Nitrogen, the best way to check for leaks is with nitrogen and a couple of ounces of R22. R22 is more easily detected with an electronic leak detector, even an old style leak detector. THEN it is legal to vent this into the atmosphere.

For this particular leak the Nitrogen/R22 method would be the very best way to check it IF you have all the necessary items to do so.

johninva · #20 08-12-2009, 08:37 PM

Im lucky I have a good friend who is a hvac tech, so I have access to all his stuff, sniffer, nitrogen, good vac pump, etc. I'm going to try and at least somewhat fill the gouge with jbweld so the oring won't buldge out into it. We will see how it goes. Got to find some mineral oil first though.

leathermang · #21 08-12-2009, 09:53 PM

Treat that friend really well... that kind of help/machine access is priceless....

leathermang · #22 08-12-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cervan

wow lol, ive dumped enough r12 and 134a into the air. it really doesnt matter does it? who is going to know? really it doesnt matter unless somone turns you in and even then they would need evidence. anyways.. i guess its all your morals on how the freon affects the ozone... i really think it doesnt matter but whatever..

By definition HALF the population has an IQ of LESS than 100.

Any random group has about at least 10 percent who are downright idiots.

What good do you think your post did ?

The EPA allows practical methods which anyone can follow with a little care and not be in jeopardy. You do not look smart bragging about how much refrigerant you have vented into the air.

my123ca · #23 06-06-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

The going price for R12 these days is about $15 a pound, only about half again as expensive as many sources for R134a.

Where can you get R12 for $15/pound?

69shovlhed · #24 06-07-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by leathermang

By definition HALF the population has an IQ of LESS than 100.

Any random group has about at least 10 percent who are downright idiots.

What good do you think your post did ?

The EPA allows practical methods which anyone can follow with a little care and not be in jeopardy. You do not look smart bragging about how much refrigerant you have vented into the air.

here is one instance where i can whole-heartedly agree with you leatherman. but i'd have to say dumping refrigerant qualifies him as more of an a$$#0le than an idiot, though back in the early 80's there were no laws about it and we had no access to recycling machines, so thats what everyone did. i hope he don't still do it...

vstech · #25 06-07-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cervan

wow lol, ive dumped enough r12 and 134a into the air. it really doesnt matter does it? who is going to know? really it doesnt matter unless somone turns you in and even then they would need evidence. anyways.. i guess its all your morals on how the freon affects the ozone... i really think it doesnt matter but whatever..

um, you do realize that posting you have done it online is all the evidence the EPA needs right? since you state you've dumped 134 and 12, it implies you knew about the 50,000.00 fine that is known about... and you do realize there is a 10,000.00 reward for someone turning you in.

my123ca · #26 06-07-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

You will need a 609 to buy it, but you can get a 609 online for $15 and about an hour of your time. The 609 in hand you can get it for about $15 a can on ebay or a 30 POUND cannister for about $22.50 per pound from any number of sources online.

more like $50/can on ebay. Is R12 still being sold in HVAC stores?

vstech · #27 06-07-2010, 10:56 AM

yes. you can buy R12 at any refrigeration supply house.
and I believe you can get it at napa and other large auto supply houses if you have certification.

vstech · #28 06-07-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by my123ca

more like $50/can on ebay. Is R12 still being sold in HVAC stores?

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=R12&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=
many auctions where bidding is less than 30/can... some paying more too.

69shovlhed · #29 06-07-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vstech

um, you do realize that posting you have done it online is all the evidence the EPA needs right? since you state you've dumped 134 and 12, it implies you knew about the 50,000.00 fine that is known about... and you do realize there is a 10,000.00 reward for someone turning you in.

for $10g's i'd turn the jerk in...

vstech · #30 06-07-2010, 11:00 AM

I did a completed auctions search and found several auctions where multiple cans were sold for 50.00 so devide by 3 or 4 and waaay less than 50/can...