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JHZR2 03-07-2010 11:01 PM

w123 Coupe Upper Window Seal Replacement
 
I am posting here to show pictures of my replacement of the upper window seals. I also did the front and rear window scrapers. Ill try to post my recollection of what I did at some point, likely not tonight. Feel free to ask questions. FYI, the big rubber parts over the windows are the Thai/Ebay ripoffs, not the felt-covered MB parts. I took a gamble, figuring that if they were lousy, Id be out $400, but if they were good, I'd be saving $600 over the cost of the OE ones. While the felt is nice, I can't say I notice it, and these work nicely.

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JHZR2 03-07-2010 11:03 PM

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johnathan1 05-12-2010 02:00 AM

Where did you purchase these? They look like they work great!

tfernandez 05-12-2010 03:22 AM

yes, please tell us where you got them, and how they are working out. any leaks?

JHZR2 05-12-2010 08:13 AM

I got them on ebay from Animore. They are not always up on there.

No leaks, though I didnt put any glue or sealant between all the butt joints. If I spray directly with a hose some will squeeze through though.

Cut wind noise down some, still hear a bit but it is not bad, these cars dont have the best aerodynamics.

Only issue, and it is not the seal's fault, is that the DS window doesnt slip under the seal like it should. I thought it was this way because of the old seal being hard, but it does this with the new one too... Suppose this means it is actually a regulator geometry issue...

toomany MBZ 05-12-2010 09:38 AM

There are a few pages in the FSM on how to adjust the window. It's too large a file for the forum, pm me if interested.

CharlieV 07-13-2011 11:49 PM

Thanks for posting the pictures. Very helpful. Looks like a job I can do, and I was directed to your thread beause I asked about the Thai seals. Are they still working out?

Also, did you take steps to adjust the windows so they will sit in the right channel? When I bought my 300cd I momentarily forgot about the difficulty of dealing with windows that have no frame on top, and I really do need to get my regasketed and adjusted.

All the best,

CharlieV

JHZR2 07-14-2011 12:28 AM

Charlie,

The first few questions I'd ask are:

-how much do you like your car, and do you plan to keep it for a while?
-what age is the car and how many miles?
-what does the frontmost rubber section (fatter/softer) look like compared to the rest of the seal?

I've made two mistakes... 1) going this long without adjusting the window alignment, and 2) not going for OE seals.

My reason for #2 isn't because the Thai seals are bad. They seal, they were cheap, and only during the car wash time when im spraying directly on the seal, do I see any water at all (few drops). My mistake is that though the frontmost section on the seal, the fatter section by the mirror, is softer/more pliable and resistant than the rest of the seal, it still isn't replaced by thai seals... It is reused... Which I thought was OK, and it probably is, but im now seeing cracks in the rubber there. Being anal, I don't want that.

So it has done me well, but I think that I'd replace the whole thing with oem so the front part gets done...

But I need to align the windows first to see how the seals actually sit when the windows are arranged so they are properly aligned with the rear window and the top of the car.

prcek123 05-07-2012 04:23 PM

Hello, do you have Mercedes part Nr. of "frontmost section on the seal, the fatter section by the mirror, is softer/more pliable" ?

Thanks, Peter

charmalu 05-09-2012 12:54 AM

Bump

JHZR2 05-10-2012 11:00 PM

I dont think that frontmost part up by the mirror is available by itself.

While the knockoffs dont have it, as I understand it, the OE MB seals come with the front section.

I wish I could get it by itself...

dbparts 09-29-2016 06:58 AM

Hi together.
we produced such seals. Actually we got 4 more sets to sell.
Shipping to the states is no problem.
For any questions feel free to ask.
Mercedes W123 C123 123 Coupé CE Dichtung/Seal Rahmen 1237200154 1237200254 NEU | eBay
dpparts.

dbparts 09-29-2016 09:34 AM

Hi everybody.

as i can see you guys in the staates have the sample problem like we in europe :D
Some friends and i decided to reproduce such sealings. you can take a look here:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-W123-C123-123-Coupe-CE-Dichtung-Seal-Rahmen-1237200154-1237200254-NEU-/112151279653?hash=item1a1cbcb825:g:Q68AAOSwNRdX64cS

We can produce more seals if we have enough buyers. So please give me a feedback if you need a set of sealings for the coupe.

For any questions feel free to ask.

kind regards.

gear-head 09-30-2016 11:11 AM

That's great news for all of us coupe lovers and owners. Just a couple of questions after reviewing your ebay auction, not real clear on whether or not these seals extend the full distance all the way down the A-pillar or not, could be an issue with the German to English translation. Also, what type of material are these made of? What about the "window wipers" both interior and exterior? There are also a couple of other peculiar pieces of rubber for the doors that are not a part of the long wrap around seal, do you have replacements for any of those?

dbparts 10-04-2016 07:30 AM

Seals are made out of black EPDM like the originals.

This are the seals for the above frame a-pillar -> c- Pillar. Number 2 of the drawing. Attached you will find some pictures maybe it's more clear if you have a look.
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161004/u3eelkuo.jpg

I colored the sealings dotted orange. You will get 4 parts. Left two sealings right two.
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161004/g72cvmwi.jpg
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161004/mmjnm4vv.jpg

The red crossed item is not part of the set. Normally this part is in good condition.
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161004/ll7tof3e.jpg

That's not the window wipers for inside or outside. Look at the pics. Thats just the sealings for the above frame.
The inside ones are very expensive and no more available. If we have enough people we can produce also the inside wiper (number 7).
I can also deliver you the outside ones (number 6), this are also reproductions.




hope this helps.


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