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Old 03-31-2010, 02:03 AM
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Exclamation if all of a sudden your diesel benz won't start...

for the love of all that's good and holy, change the glow plugs first!
I had this happen to me about 2 years ago, and I tested with an ohm meter the GP's and they all tested right at 1 ohm, so I investigated additional issues.
pulled cover, and adjusted valves. no start
pulled all injectors and cleaned out the pc's and bled the fuel system... no start
verified the timing of the motor. no start.
tweaked and tinkered many many issues. no start.
gave up and started driving my wagon, then my other SD, then a vw... a 6.2 chebby... all the while trying other things, second guessing myself with valve adjusts, compression tests, etc, etc, etc...
still no start.
tonight, in despiration, (check my other thread... kinda got stranded on the side of the road...) I pulled all the glow plugs *3 were champions... all 5 plugs were dead. no gp's at all...
while bleading the injector lines, gee guess what?
it started just fine...
man I missed driving my 82...SOOOOOO much faster and more powerful than the 83...

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Old 03-31-2010, 02:11 AM
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Now that they are out of the Engine do the bad Glow Plugs still Ohm out OK?
Also was your Glow Plug Light acting Normal?

I had Champion Glow Plugs (slightly shorter than the Mercedes ones other wise threaded and wired the same) in my Volvo for 10 years before I had even 1 failure. So at least on that application the Champions have held up well.

I do not know if it is suitable for Mercedes Glow Plugs
Over the weekend I saw that some one was selling a factory made Glow Plug Tester. The problem is it was around $75+about $10 shipping.
It is not cold enough here and I do not have a big enough fleet of Diesels to justify buying one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120524640267&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:16 AM
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nope, in my hands, they all check open... i'm sure that sitting undisturbed for 2 years caused them to fail... yeah, that's gotta be it...
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:34 AM
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While the eBay Glow Plug Analyzer on is sold by El Paso Tool. Baum Tool has what appears to be the same Analyzer listed in the Mercedes Tool Section a M500 and claims it is for all Diesels.
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:34 AM
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Nooo doubt at all... those nasty phantom electron gremlins just slowly nibbled away finally opening up the circuit on the GP's.
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Nooo doubt at all... those nasty phantom electron gremlins just slowly nibbled away finally opening up the circuit on the GP's.

Couldn't you just use a regular ammeter like in an instrument panel setup and just watch the amperage as the GP glowed?
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Old 03-31-2010, 03:39 PM
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Times like this is when I just pull the injectors and physically watch them to see if they glow. People call me crazy, but WTF do I know?
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:14 PM
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I don't know if there is an ammeter for in dash use that's able to handle 80 amps...
but anything amp wise would at least show they are functioning...
I got to checking it, when I noticed the lights didn't dim... measured the volts and they only dropped from 12.6 to 12.4 ... not much load.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:19 PM
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my glow plug analyzer

My glow plug analyzer consists of a short jumper wire with alligator clips on both ends. I connect one clip to the end of the glow plug and the other end to the positive battery terminal. Then carefully hold the outer casing of the glow plug onto the negative battery terminal. If it starts to smoke and the tip glows red, it's good. If it doesn't glow, then it gets replaced. If it's a good one, I then carefully place it in a spot to cool down; they get very hot, very quick and hold their heat for a while...
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:04 PM
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I had the same problem recently, resistance test at the gp relay made them all look ok but probing the glow plug end and the adjacent engine block rooted out the bad one.
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I don't know if there is an ammeter for in dash use that's able to handle 80 amps...
but anything amp wise would at least show they are functioning...
I got to checking it, when I noticed the lights didn't dim... measured the volts and they only dropped from 12.6 to 12.4 ... not much load.
Haven't researched it but... maybe an inductive ammeter?
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:51 PM
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I can tell right away in my car if the GP's are malfunctioning as I have a voltmeter gauge, it'd be pretty obvious if it stayed around 12V while "glowing" that nothing was going on....as normally it drops to about 10.5-11V under the load of the plugs.
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glow plug testing

I just bought a cheap $20 meter which has DC clamp- on setting good to 400A DC. Piece of cake to test for dead glows. Also good for finding DC shorts. Cheers Dan

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