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1992 W124 300D - is it a interference motor
Hi,
Will the valves hit the pistons if the timing chain brakes ? that is to say is it a interference or a non-interference motor ? Thanks |
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do you want pics of the carnage, or just my word that it does indeed hit?
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I don't know of any diesel that is non-interference.
-J
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interference... Yeap definably interference!!!
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In my limited experience if a diesel car is at idle that has hydralic lifters there seems to be enough give to just need a new timing chain or belt.
At speed the senario is always very different. Fortunatly a lot of timing belts on diesels seem to fail at start up or shutdown. |
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my kubota tractor has a compression release lever, it pulls the exhaust valves open for smooth cranking without compression. it might only pull them open a little, but the piston does not hit the valves on it.
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Your Kubota pops the valve open a hair during the compression stroke, and closes it before the piston reaches TDC. Clearance in any diesel is in thousandths of an inch, if you had a valve hang open more than just a bit, it'd get smacked.
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Hmmm I thought I looked at it with the valve cover off, and it seems to have a lever that holds the exhaust valves all open... now I gotta go pull the VC again and look it over.
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One of my best craigslist e-mail arguments ever was with some crazy person that thought 300E (m103) motors were non-interference.
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There Seems to be a concensus here...thankyou all
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What exactly occurs typicaly when the chain breaks ?
Does it bend the valves ? or Does it crack the head ? or Does it break the piston(s) in my experieince with gas engines it usually is limited to bending the valves thanks |
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Bent valves, if you're lucky. Typical damage seems to range from bent rods to broken cams and cam towers, cracked pistons, broken head bolts, etc.
The last gasser I had lose a belt was an 85 Honda Accord, it pitched the belt at about 4500rpm. Bent valves, broke the cam, shattered one piston, and split a bore. Very bad day. |
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Makes you long for the days of Engines that had only Timing Gears and Pushrods istead of Timing Belts or Chains.
I managed to drop a Screwdriver into the Timing Belt on the Volvo (I had long ago removed the several piece Timing Belt Guard). It happend at idle speed and I bent 2 Valves and Cracked several Tappets. What made it really sad was this was about 2 years after I had rebuilt the Block. My carlessness could have ruined a lot of work.
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ALL automotive diesels are interference engine. With a 20:1 compression ratio, the combustion chamber is so tiny that there's no way around it.
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