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11-12-2010, 08:36 PM
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Which glow plugs??
Glow plugs didn't work this morning, and I can find no record of them being replaced in what passes for the PO's service records. Figure that regardless what the problem is, I may as well replace them.
Checked Fastlane and Allparts and got completely different options and prices... What glow plugs are OEM for an 83SD? What is the difference between Fastlane and Allparts anyway? Seems like the same people...
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000  https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif 
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11-12-2010, 08:40 PM
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If the glowplugs didn't work at all, it's unlikely they all failed at once. Did you check the strip fuse?
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11-12-2010, 08:45 PM
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How many glow plugs have to be out for the car to have starting problems in 40 degree weather? Do you have any idea?
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11-12-2010, 08:50 PM
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1 out would make a miss on starting. Don't know how many would have to be out to cause it to fail to start. I know 1 out has stopped mine from starting at 5 degrees.
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11-12-2010, 08:58 PM
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Haven't had a chance to check anything, been at work all day.... Strip fuse is my guess, as the dash light did not come on, and there was no obvious electrical drain. Warm enough that the vehicle started without issue, but winter is coming, and replacing the glow plugs now seemed like a good idea, even if they are not the immediate problem.
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif
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11-12-2010, 09:01 PM
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Bosch or Behru
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Charles 1983 300D, bought new, 215k+ miles, donated to Purple Hearts veterans charity but I have parts for sale: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=296386
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11-12-2010, 09:23 PM
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif
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11-12-2010, 09:44 PM
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1 bad plug made a HUGE difference on my car. I used Bosch, and both the old and new ones were made in France... I thought Bosch was German...
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11-12-2010, 10:49 PM
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The Bosch Glow Plugs are entirely adequate, easier to find and cost less than the Beru Glow Plugs.
With either one you should ream the Carbon out of the Glow Plug Holes (there is a tool for that) or find alternative method to clean them. Hunter speaking of Glow Plugs dieing due to Carbon insulation http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=256688 For alternative cleaning methods DIY Repair Links http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/forumdisplay.php?f=82 http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/DoItYourSelf
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11-16-2010, 11:49 AM
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Well, determined it to be a failure of the harness. Going to pull the one from my parts car and rehab it, then put in new plugs with the new harness.
Any takers on what the difference is between allparts and fastlane?
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif
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11-16-2010, 12:09 PM
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Haven't heard of a harness failure before. Where and how did it fail?
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
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11-16-2010, 12:25 PM
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Measured impedance from glow plugs to ground, then again through the harness. Plug #3 reads right at 1 ohm by itself, 25 ohms through the harness. Same readings with new/used glow plug from parts car.
Problem reared up after normal use, no abnormal conditions. Further testing will be done when I can get the harness out.
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif Last edited by cmbdiesel; 11-16-2010 at 12:39 PM.
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