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Old 02-06-2011, 10:54 PM
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the extra maintenance over the gas engines
...what are you talking about?
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:02 PM
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...what are you talking about?

Oil changes I would imagine. (When was the last time you saw the owner of a new(ish) BMW changing their own?
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:11 PM
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...what are you talking about?
Oil changes cost more, although it won't matter for awhile since BMW includes maintenance for the first 50k miles. Also modern diesels are more complicated than there gas counterparts and are always more expensive to fix.
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:11 AM
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...what are you talking about?
X 2

That "more maintenance" bravo sierra gets old, since it is false.
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:48 PM
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I was really happy to see a passenger diesel advertised in the US at all. A harbinger of good things to come. Let's keep our fingers crossed for that diesel-electric hybrid E Class!

However, I couldn't believe BMW's X3 commercial. "Designed in America. Made in America." Really? Your selling point for a GERMAN CAR is that it's designed and made in the US? If I'm getting an American car, why do the parts still cost three times as much?
Smooth move, BMW. I'm sure Joe the Plumber can't sell his Chevy fast enough.
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:51 PM
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However, I couldn't believe BMW's X3 commercial. "Designed in America. Made in America." Really? Your selling point for a GERMAN CAR is that it's designed and made in the US? If I'm getting an American car, why do the parts still cost three times as much?
Smooth move, BMW. I'm sure Joe the Plumber can't sell his Chevy fast enough.
Probably a result of some market research about american football fans.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:13 AM
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However, I couldn't believe BMW's X3 commercial. "Designed in America. Made in America." Really? Your selling point for a GERMAN CAR is that it's designed and made in the US? If I'm getting an American car, why do the parts still cost three times as much?
Smooth move, BMW. I'm sure Joe the Plumber can't sell his Chevy fast enough.
Did you see the Chrysler ad? Honestly moving. Makes me kind of proud to be an American... Sadly the car in the ad is a re-badged Sebring quite possibly Chrysler's most boring car. But the rest of the ad was amazing.

I'd buy a Chrysler before a BMW after seeing these ads.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:58 AM
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Did you see the Chrysler ad? Honestly moving. Makes me kind of proud to be an American... Sadly the car in the ad is a re-badged Sebring quite possibly Chrysler's most boring car. But the rest of the ad was amazing.

I'd buy a Chrysler before a BMW after seeing these ads.
Advertising executives find it nice to know that you can still be moved to buy thier product with audio visuals.
If the 911 and the recession never happened eminem would have never done that commercial and he would still be calling dtown stinktown.(or whatever caustic slang his drugged out no book reading ass wants to call it)

Newer diesel powered engines use about a third less fuel than thier gasoline using counterpart model.However there are more costly to produce.This planet runs on greed.

READ the book :TWO BILLION CARS: there is an interesting section on mercedes and thier inability to bring electric cars to the mainstream almost two decades ago...... you can find it for FREE if you VISIT YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY....or ebay...(books can be had there for just a few dollars,if they are more than a year old and are non-fiction,this book fits both categories.)

your congressmen dont want you to know certain information.A bill will be passed very soon limiting your internet access....guess which buisness loving, pro gun ,not even a tenth of a percent tax increase and freedom loving party will support it

it took the prices of food to increase twenty percent in a month to incite a riot and a regime change in another country,
but they dont have access to our wonderous television and alchohol and mind numbing prescribed drugs.
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your congressmen dont want you to know certain information.A bill will be passed very soon limiting your internet access....guess which buisness loving, pro gun ,not even a tenth of a percent tax increase and freedom loving party will support it

it took the prices of food to increase twenty percent in a month to incite a riot and a regime change in another country,
but they dont have access to our wonderous television and alchohol and mind numbing prescribed drugs.
This has relevance...how?
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Did you see the Chrysler ad? Honestly moving. Makes me kind of proud to be an American... Sadly the car in the ad is a re-badged Sebring quite possibly Chrysler's most boring car. But the rest of the ad was amazing.

I'd buy a Chrysler before a BMW after seeing these ads.
I wouldn't buy a Chrysler product under any circumstances...
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I wouldn't buy a Chrysler product under any circumstances...
I'd love to own a couple Chryslers products - if I needed them. I think they represent a good value.

I like their Cummins powered pickups.

And I really like the Chrysler mini vans. Very nice vehicle to own and operate.

They gained a lot of engineeering expertise when part of the Mercedes-Benz company. As did the Jeep brand as well.
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Plus a middle-mileage 123 or 124 purchased now will outlast a 2012 330d.
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:25 PM
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Plus a middle-mileage 123 or 124 purchased now will outlast a 2012 330d.
It will probably outlast a 2012 anything.
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It will probably outlast a 2012 anything.
Maybe not a 2012 Land Rover Defender. But pretty much anything else, yeah.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:05 AM
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Thanks folks, I didn't realize there was a diesel BMW and have to wonder as rscurtis does, are there any left?
Seems they came late to the party, yet "last out, best dressed" also seems to be on target, as it was the most powerful diesel engine in 1985, not a difficult thing to accomplish, as the 617 was designed in the, what, late 70's?
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