Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-29-2011, 08:35 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Suburban Washington DC
Posts: 892
Missing VIN plate on W123, where else is the serial #?

This is an '85 model and the VIN plate on the A-pillar is missing. It does have the plate in the door pillar and that matches the VIN on the title but most states need two places for the VIN. Where else would it be? It does have the data plate on the upper radiator support but that just has a bunch of random numbers.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-29-2011, 09:14 PM
compu_85's Avatar
Cruisin on Electric Ave.
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: La Conner, WA
Posts: 5,234
Isn't the serial number stamped into the firewall? It would start with 123.
__________________
1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-29-2011, 09:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
Posts: 5,480
Typically, on '80s US-market Mercedes, the VIN is only on the door-jamb and windshield pillar. The chassis # stamped into the firewall won't match the US VIN.

Happy Motoring, Mark
__________________
DrDKW
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-30-2011, 12:35 AM
Dieselkraut23's Avatar
w123 ein super auto
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 493
The fire number does match
__________________
Wie lange wird Ihr Auto leben?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-30-2011, 01:20 AM
bustedbenz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Valle Crucis, NC
Posts: 2,283
Bring it down here to NC; all you need is the VIN on the title, nobody ever even comes out to look at the car in person. In fact, when it's an individual-to-individual transaction, we just mail the title to Raleigh with notarized signatures and the new one with our name on it comes back a few weeks later.
__________________


~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-30-2011, 06:53 AM
tbomachines's Avatar
ಠ_ಠ
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,371
Most states require a VIN verification if a car is purchased out of state. And you are also kind of screwed if a cop pulls you over and checks the VIN, as all cars are required to have a VIN visible to the public. This can be rectified by a state inspection place, they can often throw a sticker on the windshield in place of it.
__________________
TC
Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-30-2011, 08:00 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Suburban Washington DC
Posts: 892
So is the VIN stamped into the firewall some place? An odd thing I saw was a decal on the door frame that this vehicle meets emissions requirements for the 1977 model year. This is supposed to be a 1985. What is up with that? Could someone have switched bodies?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-30-2011, 12:50 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,844
... 1977? um could you put up some pictures of the sticker, the engine bay, the interior, the dash and a few other shots.
we'll critique the pics and tell you what we see.
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-30-2011, 12:51 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,844
the firewall stamping will be similar but NOT the same as the actual vin.
the first and the last numbers will match, but not the middle ones.
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-30-2011, 10:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Suburban Washington DC
Posts: 892
OK I found the numbers on the firewall and they resemble those on the door pillar so I'm satisfied it's an '85 but what's with the last picture showing it conforms to 1977 model year regulations?




Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-30-2011, 10:23 PM
okyoureabeast's Avatar
Rogue T Tolerant
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North America
Posts: 1,675
That emission sticker looks lifted. My 85 says that my car conforms to all EPA requirements for model year 1985/
__________________
-Typos courtesy of my mobile phone.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-30-2011, 10:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Suburban Washington DC
Posts: 892
So someone just stuck that on there to fool the emissions inspector?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-30-2011, 10:30 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by okyoureabeast View Post
That emission sticker looks lifted. My 85 says that my car conforms to all EPA requirements for model year 1985/
pretty hard to lift those stickers... more likely the front end was cut from another car, and the vin plate etc was riveted onto it.
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-30-2011, 10:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Suburban Washington DC
Posts: 892
Quote:
Originally Posted by okyoureabeast View Post
My 85 says that my car conforms to all EPA requirements for model year 1985/
What is the part number on your label?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-30-2011, 10:43 PM
compu_85's Avatar
Cruisin on Electric Ave.
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: La Conner, WA
Posts: 5,234
I wonder if someone stuck that on the car to try to sneak their cat delete through the emissions test

__________________
1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page