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Old 10-25-2011, 12:11 AM
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"I reccomend you use whatever weight of oil that your manual indicates. The engineers at Mercedes intended these engines to use this oil, using synthetic substitutes on non-completly rebuilt engines usually causes more problems than anything. To be more specific, the synthetic oil acts like a solvent. Freeing years of built up oil deposits, deposits that prevent oil from leaking out of ancient gaskets. This more slippery oil, often slips its way past piston rings and past valve guides, past gaskets and makes what was a previously well running engine into a basket case."
That is old and outdated opinion. It reflects the state of the technology about 15-20 years ago.

As has already been said, just make sure you use an appropriate synthetic oil.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:43 AM
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I've made the switch on two of your exact same car with no problems whatsoever (albeit at somewhat lower mileages). Especially since it's been well maintained, you should have no issues.

If you're a miser like I am....you can get the one-gallon jugs of Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W40 at Walmart for about $24. Not every Walmart has it all the time....so good to stock up.

Also, please note that there is a MISTAKE in the oil capacity given in the manual for the 91 300D. It says 7.9 qts., but it should say 7.5 qts....this was corrected in a TSB and later manuals.

Since I check my oil level regularly, what I do is add an even 7 qts. which puts the oil level about midway on the dipstick marking. Some people have found that, if they add the full 7.5 qts., a half qt. or so keeps burning away. Lots of threads on this issues.

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Old 10-25-2011, 07:14 PM
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I only use Castrol Syntec 5W-50 in all my vehicles. My wife's '85 300TDT got switched from the previous owner's Rotella at 175K and 10 years ago. Now 300K and no issues.
Castrol Syntec 5W-50 is not diesel rated.

I am not a fan of it, I used to use that oil in my Toyota for the first 90,000 miles of it's life. Opened up the engine when timing belt, and the engine was full of varnish inside. Very disappointing. I then switch to Mobil 1. Timing belt is coming up soon again, well see what the results are.


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If you're a miser like I am....you can get the one-gallon jugs of Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W40 at Walmart for about $24. Not every Walmart has it all the time....so good to stock up....
I just recently purchased M1 TDT 5w40 from Wallyworld. Price is over $26.
But still cheaper then O'Reilly's at $29.99.









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Old 10-25-2011, 07:46 AM
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That is old and outdated opinion. It reflects the state of the technology about 15-20 years ago.
Yes, maybe even older. I trace it back to the addition of detergents in motor oil. Lots of folks claimed that an engine that used older non-detergent oil would get damaged by oils with detergents because it would break up deposits and send them circulating throughout the engine. While this has a little basis in fact, millions of cars switched over without a hitch. Somehow people have transplanted this argument over to synthetics which have detergents just like all other motor oils these days.
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I changed the 80 240 to synthetic at 321K, and am at 327K w/o any issues.

I have made 2 trips to Portland, Or. (about 730mi one way) and one trip to Los Angeles (about 350mi one way). and 2 trips to northern Calif (about 275mi one way). so I have been pounding it on the freeway`s w/o any Ill effect. first qt I added was at 1400mi.

This synthetic is just another old wives tale that keeps getting circulated around through another generation of car owners.

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I changed the 80 240 to synthetic at 321K, and am at 327K w/o any issues.

I have made 2 trips to Portland, Or. (about 730mi one way) and one trip to Los Angeles (about 350mi one way). and 2 trips to northern Calif (about 275mi one way). so I have been pounding it on the freeway`s w/o any Ill effect. first qt I added was at 1400mi.

This synthetic is just another old wives tale that keeps getting circulated around through another generation of car owners.

Charlie
I stumbled across the thread doing a search, posted the above on 10-25-11.
we are up to 367K miles and the 240 is still chugging right along. oil use is about the same, after the last change, I added a qt at 1700 miles. generally she is around 1200 - 1400 miles depending how she is driven. She is still staying dry, but do get a drip on the driveway every once in a while.

She isn`t a putz around town car, quite a few trips to Oregon and Nevada. since April 1 been to Carson City and back, 900 miles, Portland and back, 2100 miles, So Cal to a GTG and back 700+ miles. will probably put 300+ miles on Saturday to another GTG. Then back to Carson City on Monday for a one day run.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:43 AM
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Yes, maybe even older. I trace it back to the addition of detergents in motor oil. Lots of folks claimed that an engine that used older non-detergent oil would get damaged by oils with detergents because it would break up deposits and send them circulating throughout the engine.
Well now you made me feel old.

I actually remember a mechanic going on about that very point to me, many moons ago, when I asked about oil for my first Volvo.
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