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Old 01-03-2012, 01:48 PM
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Why do my glow plugs always burn out in the middle of winter?

Why do my glow plugs always burn out in the middle of winter? I am sure its some form of Murphy's Law. In November I lost one. The Day after Christmas I lost two leaving me with only two working. This is the third year in a row I have lost all but two in the winter.

I have tried both Autolite and Bosch brands. I have cleaned the glow plug holes with a .223 wire brush to de-carbon the prechamber holes. The only thing I can conclude is they are not making the glowplugs as well as they used to.

Its not fun trying to replace them out in the cold weather.
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I have tried ...........Autolite
This guarantees that they won't make it one season...........
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They burn out in the winter because this is when you use them the most. Maybe 2 or even 3 full glow cycles every morning if you've got low compression and it's good and cold. Versus the quick 15 second glow in the summer. A block heater will reduce the need for low glow cycles, which will prolong the GP life.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:47 PM
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This guarantees that they won't make it one season...........
Well if Bosch didn't fail the first time I never would have had to try the Autolites. I'm trying Bosch again, maybe I got a bad batch the first time.

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They burn out in the winter because this is when you use them the most. Maybe 2 or even 3 full glow cycles every morning if you've got low compression and it's good and cold. Versus the quick 15 second glow in the summer. A block heater will reduce the need for low glow cycles, which will prolong the GP life.
Fortunately I have good compression. I'm gonna fix the block heater next. Note: a cheap hair dryer thrown under the hood with a blanket over the hood and grill makes a good substitute for a block heater
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Note: a cheap hair dryer thrown under the hood with a blanket over the hood and grill makes a good substitute for a block heater
Sounds you like you prefer your car rip-roaring-fire-hot.


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Old 01-03-2012, 08:03 PM
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Sounds you like you prefer your car rip-roaring-fire-hot.
Actually it takes about 2 hours to warm up to the point where you can start it (easily). A block heater takes about 30 minutes. I think a shock hazard would be more likely than a fire.
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Why do my glow plugs always burn out in the middle of winter? I am sure its some form of Murphy's Law. In November I lost one. The Day after Christmas I lost two leaving me with only two working. This is the third year in a row I have lost all but two in the winter.

I have tried both Autolite and Bosch brands. I have cleaned the glow plug holes with a .223 wire brush to de-carbon the prechamber holes. The only thing I can conclude is they are not making the glowplugs as well as they used to.

Its not fun trying to replace them out in the cold weather.
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Because that's when you're using them?
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Because that's when you're using them?
yes but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

on my '87 i've driven the car for 6 years - 6 cold toronto winters. i've put about 80,000 Kms on the car in that time and changed the glow plugs last fall for the first time in my 80K period. i would think that glow plugs should last at least 2 years if not more. so this owner having them fail in less than a year makes me think there's something wrong.
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12 degrees this morning, block heater not plugged in, 3 glow cycles, started and ran rough for a minute then cleared out and ran fine. Car is an "87 300D with 337XXX and the block heater does not seem to be working. Going to fix that VERY soon.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:38 AM
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The same reason my ACC unit failed, it's cold!
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Despite all the erudite replies to this heated conundrum, I can't help think we haven't progressed very far from going out to the barn on a cold winter's night and throwing 2 thick blankets over the horse, so we can ride to work in the morning... forgive me if I digress. -Will
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Hmmm.
I think this thread has denigrated by me a tad away from the original topic, I think I'll move the irrelevant posts on heat to OD...
please feel free to continue the discussion there!
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Your plugs

It would seem to me, that your glow plugs, even up north, should last for years. If I remember correctly, someone posted on this forum that he tried Ford diesel plugs, rather than Mercedes (Bosch) replacements. The Bosch were his originals and had been in the car for 16 years. His Ford replacements lasted 2 years and failed.

It seems like there's something else wrong with your car, perhaps, if they don't last at least 5-10 years, even in your cold temps. The other thing, is that someone posted a YouTube video, where he starts his car in 0 degree weather. I think he cycled his plugs only once, but the car started right up. YouTube it and see.

I guess in your cold weather, at 0 degrees, you need to add something to your fuel so it will be thin enough to start.

We don't get that cold here in Atlanta, but I've no problems whatsoever, of starting my car on 12 degree days. Starts up just like it always does, and purrs like a kitten, though it takes the plugs maybe 15 seconds longer to warm up before I can turn the key. I've never cycled them twice, ever.

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Old 01-08-2012, 08:51 AM
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After low teen/single digit nights it has taken up to 4 glow cycles and a charger boost to fire the 82 240 but if I remember to plug in the block heater it fires up after one cycle with no boost
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