HEY. i just wanted to ask if anyone could tell me if an air cleaner system out of a toyota camery (90's) would flow enough air for 300d turbo 83

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A cold air won't add any power on one of these cars. It makes the turbo louder, but you won't really see any power.

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68 280SL - 70 280SL - 70 300SEL 3.5 - 72 350SL - 72 280SEL 4.5 - 72 220 - 72 220D - 73 450SL - 84 230GE - 87 200TD - 90 190E 2.0 - 03 G500

Nissan GTR - Nissan Skyline GTS25T - Toyota GTFour - Rover Mini - Toyota Land Cruiser HJ60 - Cadillac Eldorado - BMW E30 - BMW 135i

well i just want to get it as fuel efficient as possible even if you can't see an improvement at all

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polish the car & run skinny tires with plenty of pressure will do more to improve fuel consumption = efficiency.

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1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

They don't get 35mpg if that's what you've read.

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68 280SL - 70 280SL - 70 300SEL 3.5 - 72 350SL - 72 280SEL 4.5 - 72 220 - 72 220D - 73 450SL - 84 230GE - 87 200TD - 90 190E 2.0 - 03 G500

Nissan GTR - Nissan Skyline GTS25T - Toyota GTFour - Rover Mini - Toyota Land Cruiser HJ60 - Cadillac Eldorado - BMW E30 - BMW 135i

I got 33.1 with avg speed of 75 mph on the highway on a cool morning. Boost was reading around 4-5 psi. I believe that if one really tried they could get 35mpg. I am an opportunist. I have this car now, so I will do my best with it. I know a lot of you gentlemen may think that I am stupid and ignorant, but I am doing what I want. My goal is to get 40 mpg highway with my car and I will achieve my goal. Wish me luck for those of you who are like me and for those of you that are not like me...wish me luck anyways(: thanks.

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There is no way you are getting 33 MPG's at 75 mph in that car. The gearing of the W123 will provide excellent fuel economy at 55 MPH, anything above 60 and the work the engine has to do increases exponentially.

Share your methods and procedures because I don't believe it.

I think your speedometer/odometer isn't working.

A 300D can barely get much over 30 going 55mph on flat ground with no wind. 75mph will give approx 23-25mpg.

You will not achieve your goal, math and physics will make sure for you.

Even my smaller, lighter, more aerodynamic, more advanced engine, far less powerful 190d 2.2 (73 horsepower) can barely break 36mpg at 75mph on a good day. I even have a lower ratio differential.

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Concerning the Car weight; with gassers back in the 1970s they were saying if you could get rid of 400 pounds of weight off sprung weight you could save one Mile per Gallon.

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

same (rebuilt) engine, in 1 inch lower car with better aerodynamics (w126 coupe)
30kg less curb weight...and I can only dream about 33 mpg.

@75mph (my) best case scenario is 26 mpg.

I have factory sprintfilter cold air,and I have not see any power increase.


cheers
ChO


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next wish/project: w114 coupe OM603 powered

What have you done to your car to get this?

this claim is very much outside of the norm for the vehicle, so Please post what you have done to get this.

anybody can get 30+mpg out of the vehicle if the trip is all downhill, with a tail wind, highway all tank long, and no stops between fillups.

the trick is averaging above 25mpg from tank to tank. accurate fills of the tank, burping out all the air, (why is it SOOOO hard to get the tank full to the brim on these cars???) the last 2 gallons or more take FOREVER to burp out the foam!

the problem is the car's designed in the early 70's/late 60's before aero was factored in. the flat nose, and bulbous bumper with high front and rough underbody do not promote efficient speeds above 60mph. add in the heavy automatic transmission, without any lockup the heat and slippage add up.

aero up the front end, and all panels, and the wheels/tires, and the underbody, and lighten up the load, carbon fiber all the skins, change the rear end ratio, get a smaller fuel tank, plastic race style, and swap in a 5 or 6 speed overdrive manual transmission, and you could see 40... or more even I suppose...
but then it's not a 123 sedan anymore...

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Given the engine size of the camery & it being a gasser, it is unlikely to be an ideal selection. In theory cold air may let you tweak an extra lb or 2 from the turbo before the EGT gets too high. It is really just a waist of time. Put an intercooler on if you want to run higher boost.
You should be asking this stuff in the performance sub forum !

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I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....

1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

if you are searching for economy, aerodynamics is the key. the stock intake is far less restrictive that the car can use. tweaks to the alda, and the timing of the IP, along with perfect balance on the injectors, and delivery valves will net you the most economy.
reducing weight in the car, perfecting the shifting, and getting a manual trans.
moon hubcaps, air dams, spoiler/wing...

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

The stock intake on the 617 pulls in fresh cold air from the gap between te radiator support and hood. Can't get any colder for ya.

Sure, but wouldn't it be a better idea to measure your fuel economy on a tankful or two, then come back and ask whether what you are getting is normal or not, and if the forum members have ideas on how it can be improved (assuming it isn't up to par)?

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2002 e320 4matic estate│1985 300d│1980 300td
Previous: 1979 & 1982 & 1983 300sd │ 1982 240d

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