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turbozeke418 09-16-2012 12:13 AM

W126 Tach coil and sender issue
 
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My 1983 300SD has a non working Tach. I bought a new tach amp diagnostic module (under garbage can under the hood) from someone that was referred here. The green LED lights up but I get no reading from the red blinking LED. When you put the key in glow with this module, the tach powers up to 6000 and back down as a test. So I know the tach is working. I started looking around and that brings me to where I think the issue is? There is a pickup mounted above the harmonic balancer and I think its broken. I took a pic and posted it here. Is that pickup coil in the right spot. It looks like the bracket is broken. Where is it exactly suppose to sit. Does anyone have a pic of what a working one looks like? I don't even know if there is something missing. Thanks for helping me out.

vstech 09-16-2012 12:20 AM

I can take a pic for you, I've got several engines sitting around.
if you rotate the motor over slowly, you should see a pin sticking up from the balancer, it should PERFECTLY line up with the sender in the bracket.

turbozeke418 09-16-2012 02:51 AM

A pic or two would be great. I think that the bracket is broken. I don't think that the sender and bracket are in the right spot. I'm not sure though. I haven't been able to find a pin on the balancer either.

toomany MBZ 09-16-2012 09:31 AM

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Yes, check for a pin, it should have rubbed a spot on the pick up.

funola 09-16-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by toomany MBZ (Post 3012486)
Yes, check for a pin, it should have rubbed a spot on the pick up.

only if the gap was not adjusted iproperly. it should not have rubbed a spot on the pick up, if deep enough could destroy it.

oldsinner111 09-16-2012 10:52 AM

Most tach probelms are in the connector where amp screw on,the female sockets slide down as the male is screw in.You have to find a peice of wood or metal and push up the female sockets as you screw the male tight.

turbozeke418 09-16-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3012522)
Most tach probelms are in the connector where amp screw on,the female sockets slide down as the male is screw in.You have to find a peice of wood or metal and push up the female sockets as you screw the male tight.

The socket where is screws in is perfect. That little silver pin thing on the pic is not on my car. There is a wear mark on the balancer from where the bracket was scraping it. I guess somehow the bracket broke and snapped off the pin??

toomany MBZ 09-17-2012 09:27 AM

Looks can be deceiving, but if the pin is not there, you won't get a signal to the amp.

turbozeke418 09-17-2012 09:09 PM

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OK I found it. I took a pic of it lined up and something isn't right here. Is the bracket broken? is it moveable?

funola 09-17-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by turbozeke418 (Post 3013236)
OK I found it. I took a pic of it lined up and something isn't right here. Is the bracket broken? is it moveable?

The pin is there. Hard to tell if the gap is too great. Adjust it as close as possible w/o touching -FSM has a spec. Another thing you can check is continuity of the pickup coil. Should be around 80 ohms.

turbozeke418 09-17-2012 11:11 PM

I think the issue is that the bracket is broken which holds the sender in place? The pickup does not come in contact anywhere near the pin right now. It is off by about 1/2 inch. I would think that the p/u should be right over the pin as the balancer moves? correct?

funola 09-17-2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by turbozeke418 (Post 3013294)
I think the issue is that the bracket is broken which holds the sender in place? The pickup does not come in contact anywhere near the pin right now. It is off by about 1/2 inch. I would think that the p/u should be right over the pin as the balancer moves? correct?

Broken? How? If it is bent it cān be straightened. Take the pickup off first before straightening or you will crack it.

turbozeke418 09-18-2012 02:09 AM

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Broken? How? If it is bent it cān be straightened. Take the pickup off first before straightening or you will crack it.

I don't know. I posted another pictured of it with labels. It looks like the bracket that holds the sender on is cracked. The unit itself is pushed down and over so the pickup and the knob/tit thing don't line up.

turbozeke418 09-19-2012 12:31 AM

I readjusted my pickup and adjusted it too close and the pin snapped off the end of the pickup. Where do I find a new one. Do they make them new? Does anyone have one available? Hopefully this was the problem all along and when I put the new one in everything will work?

I also read this in another post. Is this true? It was pertaining to a 1985... "The most common part to fail in regards to an inoperative tach is the OVP (overvoltage protection relay), mounted under the passenger hush panel. The only test I know of to check this relay is a "tap test". Check the fuse on the relay first, then give it a gentle tap while the engine is running. 99% of the time, the tach will start to work. It all works in conjuction with the Klima and EGR computer. The OVP protects compoments from voltage spikes. Alan"

techguy512 09-19-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by turbozeke418 (Post 3013853)
I readjusted my pickup and adjusted it too close and the pin snapped off the end of the pickup. Where do I find a new one. Do they make them new?

I also read this in another post. Is this true? It was pertaining to a 1985... "The most common part to fail in regards to an inoperative tach is the OVP (overvoltage protection relay)

Peachparts/Pelican has them:

Pelican Parts - Product Information: 001-153-84-28-M47

Note that the system in the '85 is completely different than the one you have. The switch happened sometime late in 1983.


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