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Fuel tank torment
Fuel starvation. When removing hose from primary (see through plastic) filter, fuel runs out so the feed hose from the tank does not appear obstructed. Tank screen is clean.
Car runs fine when run off of a 1 gallon jug under the hood bypassing the car's hoses, lines and tank. Any suggestions? .
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Bad lift pump?
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Hmm
If this happened after filling the fuel tank, suspect BAD fuel.
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When is the last time you changed the primary (spin on, not clear plastic) filter? Is the return hose to the tank clear? It's just the beginning
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"Torment" I think you found a fitting name for My Car!
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Please correct me but wouldn't the above eliminate: Quote:
Also tried driving with fuel tank cap removed. I had replaced the hoses (one side shown rotted through) on either side of the Fuel Tank Vent Valve (part#1234700393) . I thought that might have cured it and tested driving with the tank again (only filling it with a gallon or 2 at a time). It seemed to work. Then put in 5 gallons. Drove fine. Then it started acting up again. Looks like draining the tank (again) and sending compressed air through all the lines might be the next move. "Daily drivers, except when they're not" or "own at least two so you can at least drive one" - ought to be our community's motto. .
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In the interest of reducing confusion, the spin-on filter is the secondary filter, not the primary.
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I installed a $4 fuel pump repair kit and got amazing results. |
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If the prefilter is clear enough. Have a look for a stream of bubbles going through it. With the proper fuel lines hooked up of course .The larger bubble observed is normal and should be pretty static. You could have a pinhole developed under a line retaining clip for example. you also do not want to see fuel surging back and forth in that prefilter.
Since at one time we dealt with a lot of gas tank feed issues. It was occassionally a situation of closing off the feed line in the engine compartment and pulling a vacuum on the tank end of the line. A normal system will hold the vaccum. To verify the issue in your case although I am not particularrily happy about doing it. Reverse the feed and return lines in the engine compartment. If things normalise you know pretty well exactly where the issue is. You should have a half tank of fuel or more to do that test. Last edited by barry12345; 02-09-2013 at 11:41 AM. |
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[QUOTE="Daily drivers, except when they're not" or "own at least two so you can at least drive one" - ought to be our community's motto. .[/QUOTE]
My sentiments exactly!!
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I know the spin on is second in line but I can't help myself in calling it the primary as it does the hard work
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Did you pull the fuel tank strainer? Sounds like it might be partially plugged? Try swapping the feed and return lines near the primary filter (small plastic one). You stated you added five gallons and it was fine. How much of that was used before the problems returned?
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Sounds like the two lines. Fuel supply and return may already be reversed. You have to have a decent amount of fuel in the tank for the return line to function as the main fuel feed. The last post on this thread plus re reading your post stirred this thought up..
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