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08-17-2013, 04:02 PM
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what are the year differences in the 123 300TD?
Possibly looking for a 300TD 123 chassis for the fiance. She said she might be interested in a replacement 123 chassis diesel wagon for her 97 volvo wagon, since she "wants to get back to a diesel and loves the old wagons". Greatest words ever heard for a diesel addict.
I'm curious of the year differences, the most I know are the 2.88 diff in 85, the early non turbos (79-80?), and that's about it. Are there improvements/differences in the SLS? Are there specific years I should avoid in the chassis range? Is there a best year for automatic transmission? As you can imagine I'm pretty psyched about this possibility.
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08-17-2013, 04:11 PM
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Whooo boy. good questions all.
77-early 79, a/c was the york monster and the glow plugs were the old loop style needing conversion plugs to have fast glow. mid 79 the a/c was changed to GMR4 but the plugs were not changed until late 79 to the pencil type turbo was introduced in the 81 year vehicle, and at the same time it got the digital speedometer and 722.3xx transmission to handle the turbo, in 82 the trans got changed back to mechanical speedometer, but stayed the .3xx to handle the turbo. 83 the plastic fan was added for better cooling, but not the smaller wp pulley that the SD got the same year... in 81 and up 123's the gear ratio was changed taller to better take advantage of the turbo's power, 3.07 for 81-84, and as mentioned 2.88 for the 85 year. I'd like to find an 81, but I don't think it'd be better than an 84 from the updated standpoint. 85 I'd think would be the ideal year to buy. best power, and economy of all the years.
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08-17-2013, 04:42 PM
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Oh come on JB3 you know you're going to change what ever you don't like...
...just get one that's rust free.
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08-17-2013, 05:07 PM
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08-17-2013, 05:14 PM
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 (I did add the qualifier 'unless requested') Rust free definitely, or as close as I can find. Criteria are things like transmission and engine work properly, a/c needs to work or needs to be reasonably fixable. Interior needs to be tan. This would definitely be her car though, my role will be maintaining it and looking around for a good one.
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08-17-2013, 05:28 PM
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Go up & get that one from Boston with the velour! I might be able to go check it out for you tomorrow... it would be a good excuse just to see the thing!
Oh, and PM me as to whether or not next Saturday works for picking up seats. I have been given clearance.
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08-17-2013, 05:32 PM
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Rust-free '83 Wagon Body and Engine for Sale - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum Seems like your type of car. Maybe you can add in a six speed auto to feed your compulsive modification disorder! .
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08-17-2013, 05:42 PM
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Not much of what are the differences between the years, but my favorite models are first the 1983 model year and second the 1984 Federal ( not Cali). Mainly because I think they provided the best equipment in the most simplistic form. No funky vacuum system and electronics to fail.
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08-17-2013, 05:42 PM
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Is that boston one still up? Didn't come up recently
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08-17-2013, 05:44 PM
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Fixer upper? - Volvo 740 GLE Turbo Diesel station wagon $1,550 OBO
That darn clutch pedal - Upholstery isn't tan - Dang, I might pick up that Volvo for the kids... Sixto 87 300D
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08-17-2013, 05:48 PM
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We may also have a partial trade idea as well. A family member wants the 97 wagon, and in return will buy it off us and give us an 89 volvo 240 wagon 5-speed. This we will either partially trade towards a 300TD, or just sell to add funds to our budget for a 300TD
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08-17-2013, 05:55 PM
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She definitely wants a 123 chassis wagon though
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08-17-2013, 08:03 PM
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08-18-2013, 01:33 AM
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That Seattle Benz DeliveryValve linked to looks pretty nice and has the tan interior you were looking for. Seems to have a nice dash and clean engine.
A bit far from you though...
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