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Mercedes Man 12-29-2013 05:33 PM

Can you tell me how to get this needle valve unstuck from the nozzle body?
 
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What I have here is one of five fuel injectors I got from a junkyard OM617. When I tested it, it would not pop. I took apart the fuel injector and found out the needle valve will not come out even when lubricated with Liquid Wrench. I put the needle value stem a vise lined with wood and the needle valve would not break loose from the nozzle body.

Please take a look at the picture of the nozzle. It is bluish. According to this thread, http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/238060-pintle-seized-injector-nozzle-why.html , the heat shield was not replaced which caused the fuel injector to overheat and seize up.

How can I get this needle valve out?

OR

Is this a piece of junk?

engatwork 12-29-2013 05:35 PM

I don't think you will get it out without it reflecting some damage. Replace it.

Diesel911 12-29-2013 06:16 PM

If it is rust in place it is no good.

If it is just dried up Fuel holding it it might be OK.

You can use a propane torch to heat up the outer part of the Nozzle and quickly put it in a Vice that has Aluminum or Coper Jaw Shields and try to pull the Pintle out.

You are going to have to judge how much heat is needed.

cooljjay 12-29-2013 09:20 PM

I wouldn't even bother...I would box them up and send them to member jamesdean....his prices are great....and his work even better....so why rebuild them your self anymore...

ichris93 12-29-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cooljjay (Post 3262065)
I wouldn't even bother...I would box them up and send them to member jamesdean....his prices are great....and his work even better....so why rebuild them your self anymore...

Do you mean greazzer? jamesdean does cruise control

Diesel911 12-29-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cooljjay (Post 3262065)
I wouldn't even bother...I would box them up and send them to member jamesdean....his prices are great....and his work even better....so why rebuild them your self anymore...

This has to be a DIY infraction.:D Shame on You.:D

cooljjay 12-29-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ichris93 (Post 3262067)
Do you mean greazzer? jamesdean does cruise control

oops I sure did....thanks for correction :cool:

ichris93 12-29-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cooljjay (Post 3262107)
oops I sure did....thanks for correction :cool:

You're welcome! He has done my 240's and has my 190's now.

psaboic 12-29-2013 11:26 PM

He just did the ones out of my 300D. I got them back and they look FANTASTIC! Can't wait to get a day off of work to actually install them......

greazzer 12-29-2013 11:33 PM

If you have the time, just hit it with PB Blaster over and over, and after about a few days, put the nozzle in a vice. Then, CAREFULLY, get a pair of vice grips and try to turn the pintle. If you get the pintle to spin, you should be OK. Put the vice grips perpendicular to the nozzle body and not up and down. However, that greenish blue color is indicative of high heat. I would guess that nozzle is toast, HOWEVER ... I actually have a number of nice Germans which have that heat colored effect, and they pop perfectly. So, it's worth a few minutes of your time as you never know.

whunter 12-30-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercedes Man (Post 3261965)
What I have here is one of five fuel injectors I got from a junkyard OM617. When I tested it, it would not pop. I took apart the fuel injector and found out the needle valve will not come out even when lubricated with Liquid Wrench. I put the needle value stem a vise lined with wood and the needle valve would not break loose from the nozzle body.

Please take a look at the picture of the nozzle. It is bluish. According to this thread, http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/238060-pintle-seized-injector-nozzle-why.html , the heat shield was not replaced which caused the fuel injector to overheat and seize up.

How can I get this needle valve out?

OR

Is this a piece of junk?

The rainbow is conclusive proof = it is junk.

An ultrasonic cleaner might free it up, if you have nothing better to do.


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engatwork 12-30-2013 08:41 AM

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The rainbow is conclusive proof = it is junk.
That is the way I read it.

greazzer 12-30-2013 09:49 AM

"The rainbow is conclusive proof = it is junk"

Not 100% accurate. If you have the time, I would give it a whirl. The age and wear and miles are a greater predicter of a worn nozzel. That heat colorization, if that is a word, suggests it's toast, but it may not be. Percentages are not on your side, unfortunately but a few minutes may be worth it.

cooljjay 12-30-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ichris93 (Post 3262115)
You're welcome! He has done my 240's and has my 190's now.

When I get my euro back....he will be getting mine....installed rebuilt injectors with monark nozzles....but I was told by a shop one wasn't firing correctly...

eatont9999 12-30-2013 12:17 PM

Throw it in the trash. You time is more valuable than fooling around with an injector nozzle that won't fire properly even if you unstick it. The nozzles are machined to very fine tolerances and if it is stuck, it has a major problem.


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