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Mölyapina 02-19-2014 09:27 AM

Running the water pump with pantyhose on an OM617
 
Anybody done this? Does it work? I'd be idling the engine, nothing else.

Simpler=Better 02-19-2014 09:31 AM

If you're just doing a test you can get "universal" belts. Pantyhose/zip ties/ twine work too, just make sure it's turning it.

Junkman 02-19-2014 09:40 AM

You know women that wear panty hose and will take them off so you can use them on your engine?

I usually have to work harder.

vstech 02-19-2014 10:03 AM

it works amazingly well... on v-belts... not too helpful on serpentine setups...

funola 02-19-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3289407)
it works amazingly well... on v-belts... not too helpful on serpentine setups...

Have you experimented with what's the best type of knots to use on a panty hose? How many minutes/miles have you gotten out of a panty hose belt?

winmutt 02-19-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funola (Post 3289443)
Have you experimented with what's the best type of knots to use on a panty hose? How many minutes/miles have you gotten out of a panty hose belt?

I could have used this on the side of the highway once.

Diesel911 02-19-2014 12:49 PM

When I was in the Army an Army Truck Driver did it. He stopped some German Girl and got the Panty Hoes from Her and got His Truck on the Road. An article about it was in the Stars and Stripes.

whunter 02-19-2014 12:54 PM

Hmm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funola (Post 3289443)
Have you experimented with what's the best type of knots to use on a panty hose? How many minutes/miles have you gotten out of a panty hose belt?

If this is a serious question?

How to Tie a permanent knot « Sailing
https://www.google.com/search?q=permanent+knots+with+rope&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

Fisherman's knot
https://www.google.com/search?q=Fisherman%27s+knots&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#channel=sb&q=Fisherman%27s+knot&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Double Fisherman's (Grapevine, Bend)
Double Fisherman's Bend | How to tie a Double Fisherman's, or Grapevine, Bend | Climbing Knots

Figure 8 (Flemish, Bend)
Figure 8 Bend (Flemish Bend) | How to tie the Figure 8 Bend (Flemish Bend) | Climbing Knots

square knots
https://www.google.com/search?q=square+knots&client=firefox-a&hs=CRr&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=OeIEU7i0MoK6yQG624GwAQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024& bih=625

Note: The longest (good quality) nylons survived (for me) was 300 miles (holiday in the midwest).
The worst (POOR Quality) nylons did not survive 7 seconds...

LINK "V" belts are a wise addition to your garage and car emergency kit.
https://www.google.com/search?q=link+v+belts&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

LINK "V" belts
https://www.google.com/search?q=link+v+belts&client=firefox-a&hs=TsC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0u0EU5vhJ4eMyAHj-4D4DQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1024&bih=625

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Diesel911 02-19-2014 12:54 PM

I can see Myself standing on the side of the Road with a Cardboard sign. "I want your used Panty Hoes" "Will work for used Panty Hoes" and so on.

funola 02-19-2014 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 3289479)
If this is a serious question?

How to Tie a permanent knot « Sailing
https://www.google.com/search?q=permanent+knots+with+rope&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

Fisherman's knot
https://www.google.com/search?q=Fisherman%27s+knots&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#channel=sb&q=Fisherman%27s+knot&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Double Fisherman's (Grapevine, Bend)
Double Fisherman's Bend | How to tie a Double Fisherman's, or Grapevine, Bend | Climbing Knots

Figure 8 (Flemish, Bend)
Figure 8 Bend (Flemish Bend) | How to tie the Figure 8 Bend (Flemish Bend) | Climbing Knots

square knots
https://www.google.com/search?q=square+knots&client=firefox-a&hs=CRr&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=OeIEU7i0MoK6yQG624GwAQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024& bih=625

Note: The longest (good quality) nylons survived (for me) was 300 miles (holiday in the midwest).
The worst (POOR Quality) nylons did not survive 7 seconds...

LINK "V" belts are a wise addition to your garage and car emergency kit.
https://www.google.com/search?q=link+v+belts&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

LINK "V" belts
https://www.google.com/search?q=link+v+belts&client=firefox-a&hs=TsC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0u0EU5vhJ4eMyAHj-4D4DQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1024&bih=625

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Dead serious. I'm sure some knots are better than others for a panty hose. I am looking for actual experience using a panty hose as an emergency belt.

300 miles on a panty hose is amazing, 7 seconds what good is it? So it depends on the quality of the panty hose? I imagine for the panty hose to work and get you out of a bind in an emergency, it must be tight enough to grip and not slip? If it slips, it will burn up and break?

How long will those link V belts last and what kind of tools do you need to install them?

barry12345 02-19-2014 01:45 PM

Crank to water pump on cars as a temporary emergency type thing. Panty hose have been used thousands of times by people. Even the link belt sucks in comparison as there is no provision to get tension unless really forcing the belt on after the needed length is estimated. The panty hose instead stretch to provide traction tension when installing.

It also helps that the power requirements of car water pumps seem low to me although I have never estimated them. Especially at idle and that is why panty hose work in my opinion.

Short test no harm. Engine can be run at an idle with no water pump function for at least a few minutes as well. Or I should qualify this. Most of the older diesel engines are slow to build heat if the cooling system is full at idle.

whunter 02-19-2014 02:12 PM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funola (Post 3289499)
Dead serious. I'm sure some knots are better than others for a panty hose. I am looking for actual experience using a panty hose as an emergency belt.

300 miles on a panty hose is amazing, 7 seconds what good is it? So it depends on the quality of the panty hose? I imagine for the panty hose to work and get you out of a bind in an emergency, it must be tight enough to grip and not slip? If it slips, it will burn up and break?

How long will those link V belts last and what kind of tools do you need to install them?

I posted links to the knots that have worked for me.

IMO the panty hose option is desperation.

Link V belts last a long time, if you DON'T over tension or exceed their speed rating.
I suggest you not exceed 1600 - 2000 RPM, as I have seen the Link V belts shred at higher RPM.
A Link V belt will get me to 50 MPH = a reasonable speed to reach parts/repair.
For best results you need to release the alternator (fully back off) tension adjustment, once Link V belt is installed use roughly 1/4 - 1/2 of normal tension.


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strelnik 02-19-2014 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel911 (Post 3289480)
I can see Myself standing on the side of the Road with a Cardboard sign. "I want your used Panty Hoes" "Will work for used Panty Hoes" and so on.


I guess my question is one of spelling or intention.

Did you mean

panty hose (the stockings) or

panty hoes (those who most often wear the stockings? :confused:

barry12345 02-19-2014 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strelnik (Post 3289542)
I guess my question is one of spelling or intention.

Did you mean

panty hose (the stockings) or

panty hoes (those who most often wear the stockings? :confused:

Whatever turns his pump I imagine.:D Both have function. The second option can cause you to overheat though.

OM617YOTA 02-20-2014 09:28 AM

When you change your V belt, throw the old one in the trunk. New one shreds in BFE, install your old one.


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