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Old 12-17-2015, 11:54 AM
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Heater problem

The climate system is making and odd noise. clickclickclickclickclick.... very fast repeated clicking.

It does this when heat is selected on the temp roller, and the button (marked EC) next to the off button is pushed in. It also does it when the next button to the left is pushed in. When the next button (with 2 solid arrows) to the left is in, it doesn't make the noise.

After messing about with it, I suspect the gizmo that operates the flap that directs the air through the dash vents and the floor vents may be having a problem. The sound seems to come from inside the knee pad area, just to the right of the center console.

With the ACC off, I rolled the dial to full-on A/C let chill air come out for a while, then pushed the button marked EC. I then rolled the dial to full heat. The clicking didn't happen, warm air came out the dash vents. But when I turned the engine off, then re-started it, the clicking began immediately.

Any ideas? Maybe photos of the potential problem?

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Old 12-17-2015, 03:14 PM
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Here is a thread from the forum that seems to describe your problem. PEACH
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:40 PM
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That's an interesting thread you posted, but we don`t know if he fixed his problem.
There was no closeure to what he did or if it even works now.

Redoing the solder connections works sometimes. Too much heat can damage the components on the board.
Also if there is bad components on the board. redoing the solder won`t fix the problem totally.

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Old 12-17-2015, 10:50 PM
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I have a spare push button unit (PBU) that was from a 190 I no longer have. So I took it apart for practice. I can see a couple cold solder joints in this unit.

It makes sense that the rapid clicking sound is a relay that doesn't fully engage, and is controlled by the PBU.

That means the problem is either the relay, or the PBU. I'd like to find the relay and test it before I remove and tear into the PBU.

Any suggestions on the relay(s) location?
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Old 12-17-2015, 11:55 PM
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The innards of the push-button box in my 1984 & 85 300D's is mostly relays. They are soldered to the circuit board. You can find photos on this site. I might have even posted some. The relays are large (~6 total) and exposed, so easy to see how they work. A cold solder joint (cracked) can certainly cause "relay chatter".
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:46 AM
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I think I'll go to the Pick&Pull and get a spare PBU. There are 3 donors from 83-85, my 300SD chassis is a 1984.

I'm in Idaho and the heater is presently working. When I fiddle with the PBU a bit the clicking stops and the heat comes out of the windshield vents and the side-dash vents.

The last thing I want is to do is "fix" it until it is well and truly broken before Spring.

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