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Old 05-28-2016, 01:30 AM
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Why does my radiator fan come on sometimes at start up?

Sometimes I start the car for the first time of the day, and the radiator fan comes on. Why does it do that, if the engine is at room temperature, 65 degrees?

Most times it does not turn on, but other times it does.

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Old 05-28-2016, 01:33 AM
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Is your AC switched on?
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mine (electric)does this too, but @ every start-up over 65* F ambient temp.

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A/c is not on

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Is your AC switched on?
No a/c or heat is on. Turned off.
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Are you referring to the electric fan in front of the condenser or the belt driven fan on the water pump?

Electric fan operates off coolant high temperature or high a/c system pressure.

Mechanical fan has a viscous clutch that normally engages on high air temperature but on startup the fan will typically operate briefly (due to the oil pooling in the unit at rest?).

Does it roar like a garbage truck? If so that is normal and means you have a properly functioning fan clutch.
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Are you referring to the electric fan in front of the condenser or the belt driven fan on the water pump?

Electric fan operates off coolant high temperature or high a/c system pressure.

Mechanical fan has a viscous clutch that normally engages on high air temperature but on startup the fan will typically operate briefly (due to the oil pooling in the unit at rest?).

Does it roar like a garbage truck? If so that is normal and means you have a properly functioning fan clutch.
I hadn't looked at which fan but will try to check tomorrow. I'm just guessing it is the one in front of the condenser because it's pretty loud. Even if it's working as a properly functioning fan clutch as you say, it's intermittent. Sometimes it will be on at a cold startup, sometimes it won't.
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On 1987 124s the electric fan is directly controlled by the pressure and temperature switches via the relays.

Post 1987 they changed the fan control so that the climate control managed the fan. Maybe as part of the power on routine it spins up the fan...
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Sometimes I start the car for the first time of the day, and the radiator fan comes on. Why does it do that, if the engine is at room temperature, 65 degrees?

Most times it does not turn on, but other times it does.

1991 300d, 207k
I had this same issue in my 95, it was solved after changing the push button unit for the AC/heater system in the dashboard - some loose solders cause this.

The high speed function of the fans are controlled by the unit as a trigger to a relay in the fuse box. The push button unit refers the coolant sensor on the front part of the head for this function. To test a normal system one just disconnects the sensor and the fans start on high.

The older cars 86-87 etc had a switch in place of the sensor directly controlling the high speed relay.
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Interesting.

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I had this same issue in my 95, it was solved after changing the push button unit for the AC/heater system in the dashboard - some loose solders cause this.

The high speed function of the fans are controlled by the unit as a trigger to a relay in the fuse box. The push button unit refers the coolant sensor on the front part of the head for this function. To test a normal system one just disconnects the sensor and the fans start on high.

The older cars 86-87 etc had a switch in place of the sensor directly controlling the high speed relay.
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