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Old 10-10-2017, 10:44 PM
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W123: No power to Window Switch

Hello,

After 5 years of dealing with non functional rear windows on my 1985 300TD, I decided to tackle the project. I found some less bent rear regulators at a salvage yard, and straightened them and installed them in the car.

Here is the issue, I am not getting any power to the drivers side rear door switch. The window motor is tested and works, and I tested the pins and I am not getting 12 volts. I swapped the master switch with a spare, and it did not change.

I am not getting power to the black/pink (#3) wire like the passenger side. I may have shorted the wiring when I took the regulator out, as you have to dismantle the switch connector to removed the window motor. I did have the negative battery cable unplugged, but I had to move the car because of street sweeping, and I forgot to tape the loose connections. They may have touched when I moved the car.

Feeling a bit frustrated, hoping someone could help narrow this down. Thanks for your help.


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Old 10-10-2017, 10:55 PM
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Hello,

After 5 years of dealing with non functional rear windows on my 1985 300TD, I decided to tackle the project. I found some less bent rear regulators at a salvage yard, and straightened them and installed them in the car.

Here is the issue, I am not getting any power to the drivers side rear door switch. The window motor is tested and works, and I tested the pins and I am not getting 12 volts. I swapped the master switch with a spare, and it did not change.

I am not getting power to the black/pink (#3) wire like the passenger side. I may have shorted the wiring when I took the regulator out, as you have to dismantle the switch connector to removed the window motor. I did have the negative unplugged, but I had to move the car because of street sweeping, and forgot to tape the loose connections, they may have touched when I moved the car.

Feeling a bit frustrated, hoping someone could help narrow this down. Thanks for your help.
I have the same issue with the same window... But pass front was working.... was... now it's has stopped also. There share same fuse, but its fine. I think I mouse visited? have not had time to tear into it yet, but will when I do the 4 speed manual swap.
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When the front windows work and the rears are intermittent I find the trouble is usually with the "safety" or rear passenger lock out button.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:37 AM
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It's common for the wire(s) to break at the pillar-door interface.

A wire continuity check will confirm that issue.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:05 AM
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It's common for the wire(s) to break at the pillar-door interface.

A wire continuity check will confirm that issue.
+1 The wiring used throughout the Mercedes harness has large strands, and a low strand count. This makes it prone to breakage where it flexes at the hinge pillars. I like to replace damaged wires with high strand count silicone insulated wire. This stuff is used as "ignition wire" for R/C models and is sold in hobby shops. Or you can buy online:

2Pcs 18AWG Tinned Copper Soft Silicone Cable Wire Heatproof for RC Lipo Battery
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Thanks for the link. Looks like some good stuff to use for some other places where the binding and flexing causes problems.
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I have the same issue with the same window... But pass front was working.... was... now it's has stopped also. There share same fuse, but its fine. I think I mouse visited? have not had time to tear into it yet, but will when I do the 4 speed manual swap.
My Window Fueses looked good but when I pulled them I found one Fuse had the tip either corroded or burned off.
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Probably not a fuse because the L rear window shares a fuse with the R front window, so if that works it the fuse is probably OK. But, I have found fuse problems from the factory silver fuses. I measured 12 V on the switch supply lead, but it dropped <1 V when the switch was actuated, and a high-resistance fuse contact was the culprit. Replacing with a gold fuse fixed those diagonal windows. It might be such that the current load of the R front is slightly less so it works while the L rear doesn't.

Anyway, you can do most testing from the console switches with a multimeter and a schematic. You should measure <100 ohm across the motor leads if wiring and motor is good. The rears have funky wiring because of the "rear lock-out" button in the front. But first get them working from the console switches. I found broken wires in the jamb feed-thru of my 1985 driver's door, which is a common problem. I am lucky my driver's window hasn't broken again since I must lower it 3 times on the way to work going thru security checks.

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