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Old 09-12-2018, 10:03 AM
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Thumbs up You guys where right about driving your diesel HARD

After a few months of hard driving, (at operating temperature) the engine longer has incomplete combustion. No more smoke at cold idle , no more shake either. I have 3 levels of city driving.

Level 3 Basically in the city, when possible I floor it (I stay in the speed limit).


Level 2 Here's an interesting one, I floor into kick down to build boost, but JUST before it kicks down and goes bonkers I let off of it just enough to disengage kickdown but remain at full rack. Essentially nearly full power at higher gears.


Level 3 full rack no kickdown.

I drive normal on the highway. No more babying it, because babying it will kill it.

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Old 09-12-2018, 10:41 AM
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After a few months of hard driving, (at operating temperature) the engine longer has incomplete combustion. No more smoke at cold idle , no more shake either. I have 3 levels of city driving.

Level 3 Basically in the city, when possible I floor it (I stay in the speed limit).


Level 2 Here's an interesting one, I floor into kick down to build boost, but JUST before it kicks down and goes bonkers I let off of it just enough to disengage kickdown but remain at full rack. Essentially nearly full power at higher gears.


Level 3 full rack no kickdown.

I drive normal on the highway. No more babying it, because babying it will kill it.

Wonder what that type of driving on a regular basis does to your tires, transmission, and brakes, and drive train???



One of the greatest factors affecting the efficiency of a diesel engine, or any engine, is how you drive. By developing good driving habits you can greatly increase your engine efficiency and mileage per gallon.
You should avoid sudden acceleration or braking. Both these things eat fuel. The more smoothly you drive, the less diesel you’ll use. Similarly, driving fast might get you somewhere faster, but you’ll pay for it with a less efficient engine. Find the cruising speed that uses the least fuel and don’t go faster than that.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:42 AM
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The recommendation to "drive it hard" doesn't mean "continuously". That means to take it out from time to time and give it a good thrash. ANY engine needs to be driven hard from time to time to promote even cylinder wear, break down any varnish, and burn out any carbon deposits.

Driving like an A-hole all the time is just wasteful and destructive to your car's drivetrain.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:59 AM
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The recommendation to "drive it hard" doesn't mean "continuously". That means to take it out from time to time and give it a good thrash. ANY engine needs to be driven hard from time to time to promote even cylinder wear, break down any varnish, and burn out any carbon deposits.

Driving like an A-hole all the time is just wasteful and destructive to your car's drivetrain.
Oh, I took it to literally. All's well that end well yeah.
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Old 09-12-2018, 12:19 PM
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Wonder what that type of driving on a regular basis does to your tires, transmission, and brakes, and drive train???



One of the greatest factors affecting the efficiency of a diesel engine, or any engine, is how you drive. By developing good driving habits you can greatly increase your engine efficiency and mileage per gallon.
You should avoid sudden acceleration or braking. Both these things eat fuel. The more smoothly you drive, the less diesel you’ll use. Similarly, driving fast might get you somewhere faster, but you’ll pay for it with a less efficient engine. Find the cruising speed that uses the least fuel and don’t go faster than that.
I'm done with the frequent hard driving but my brakes where not affected much, because I would always allow room to coast.

I never accelerated and jammed on brakes, always to 40 or 45 and coast at 45.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:16 AM
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I'm done with the frequent hard driving but my brakes where not affected much, because I would always allow room to coast.

I never accelerated and jammed on brakes, always to 40 or 45 and coast at 45.
I don't think you've done any damage.


I see people driving some NA diesels and babying them. That's not good for them.


Driving them at higher speeds for an hour with all accessories in use plus AC on will clear out any carbon. If the temperature goes up a bit, that cannot hurt. As long as the vehicle doesn't overheat and blow a hose.


If you haven't already done so, I would consider doing a citric acid/other flush to keep the cooling system in top condition. That makes running the engine hard easier and more effective to clear out items.


These cars respond well to preventive maintenance.
If applicable, don't forget a yearly valve adjustment!
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:58 AM
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I think one of the best things is to take it out and give it a good sustained run at highway speed. Just drive it and let it clear itself out. A quart of rislone now and then if you think its getting gooed up.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:04 AM
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Driving it well doesn't mean flooring it and running it up to max. RPM's with every shift, it just means don't drive it like your Granny's Caddy .

The open road runs @ 75 + MPH really do help keep the engine healthy and if you have good brakes / tires / etc. running it as fast as it'll go once in a while is good for it too .

I drive my vehicles _all_ of them, spiritedly ~ I never thrash them because I have to fix them and I don't like wasting $ .

Certainly after less than 100 miles my Lady's 300TD is running better ~ she never drives it on the freeway, I like to cruise @ 75 ~ 80 MPH and the car loves it too .
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:35 PM
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Diesels respond well to working under load, this is what I did to run in my C250D after engine rebuild and new rings, honed bore.

Long steep gradient, high gear, low revs forces rings out on each stroke seating them well - car did many miles subsequently with at least two other owners.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:07 AM
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I bought SWMBO a gray market 300TD a few years back low ~ mileage, direct imported to California when new, it ran like a scalded cat when I first gave it to her, she's a 76 Y.O. Lady who's afraid of the freeway so it mostly putt-putts around town, I don't drive it much .

As I've had the car two weeks for tinkering, service and cleaning it's been running better and better, once again it's significantly more powerful than my '84 Coupe .

Friday evening just for giggles I pinned the throttle from a dead halt getting on the freeway, allowing the engine to run up to forced up shifts 1 & 2, it was passing 75 MPH in 3rd when I lifted the throttle a tiny bit and it smoothly shifted into 4rth gear and was very quickly going 100 MPH ~ time to ease off, I don't normally drive with more than 1/2 throttle at any given time nor do I exceed 80 MPH, I was pleased to see NO SMOKE and the engine continues to idle glassine smooth .
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:44 AM
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I've never been one to baby these cars around but still hoof it when I have to.
Actually yesterday I did a 10h road trip in the '77 with a trailer full of stuff (moving house) and had my foot on the floor for hours on end...if that didn't clear it out I dunno what would
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:24 AM
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? How fast did it go at full throttle ? .

I'm chicken to go much more than 100MPH because things happen too fast .
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I caught this pic, seemed appropriate at the moment.

Drive it like you stole it.
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I caught this pic, seemed appropriate at the moment.

Drive it like you stole it.
That ain't happening in an 81 240D, 6500 red line or the 120mph.

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