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Old 12-28-2018, 02:15 AM
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Not gonna happen any time soon. Diesel cars and trucks won’t go anywhere for at least 40 years or more. The cost of the batteries and the downtime to recharge is ridiculous. You think companies are gonna take a huge hit on some electric POS? Those trucks need to run not sitting at a charging station while the driver is sticking his thumb up his, well you know!

Besides,.. quit selling diesel and you can make your own biodiesel.
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Old 12-28-2018, 08:40 AM
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Not gonna happen any time soon. Diesel cars and trucks won’t go anywhere for at least 40 years or more. The cost of the batteries and the downtime to recharge is ridiculous.
For over the road trucks, there will be a battery change out for faster turn around. The first to try this will be freight companies for depot to depot runs since this is a stable route with known energy requirements.

Next will be inner city routes where energy use is slightly more variable and then suburb / rural routes where the trip routs is less stable. We are no where near an owner operator running an electric truck.

The real future is natural gas, UPS has moved many trucks to this fuel. I've also seen gas turbine / electric drive trucks in the design phase. This is a real alternative to 100 % electric. A small battery pack can be used for yard moves and the turbine on the road. This battery also gives the option of recovering energy lost in braking.

Also, battery powered mini excavators exist right now from many manufacturers. Enter " battery powered excavator " in your google machine. The target is in a building where fumes can't be contained / exhausted.

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You think companies are gonna take a huge hit on some electric POS?

Those trucks need to run not sitting at a charging station while the driver is sticking his thumb up his, well you know!
When anyone starts to leans towards " language " to make their point and randomly says things are " junk " without any real reasons to back it up, that tells me that they don't understand the problem.
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Old 12-28-2018, 08:57 AM
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"We are no where near an owner operator running an electric truck. "

Coca-Cola has been using all electric beverage delivery trucks for some years now in the Los Angeles basin .

I always wonder ow far such a heavy vehicle can go when loaded .
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"We are no where near an owner operator running an electric truck. "

Coca-Cola has been using all electric beverage delivery trucks for some years now in the Los Angeles basin .

I always wonder ow far such a heavy vehicle can go when loaded .
Owner / operator is a guy that bought his own truck and moves loads for others. This can be on his trailer or someone eases trailer.

Truck fleets have fixed depots where charging and battery change out infrastructure can be located. Until a battery standard is adhered to and on the road facilities built out, the OO won't get an electric truck.

I'm guessing that this same discussion occurred when wind power moved to water wheels to steam to gasoline.
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Old 12-29-2018, 12:05 AM
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O.K., I got it .

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Owner / operator is a guy that bought his own truck and moves loads for others. This can be on his trailer or someone eases trailer.

Truck fleets have fixed depots where charging and battery change out infrastructure can be located. Until a battery standard is adhered to and on the road facilities built out, the OO won't get an electric truck.

I'm guessing that this same discussion occurred when wind power moved to water wheels to steam to gasoline.
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:46 PM
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This reminds me of someone freaking out that the switch from carburator to fuel injection will ultimately be the end of the world as we know it for mechanics.

Aa long as people use personal conveyances to get around, there will be people needed to service them. Dont really get the freakout that a change from ICE to electric motors will automatically mean no work for technicians on todays hyper complex vehicles.

Just dont marry yourself to old methods, and really apply yourself to automotive electrical diagnosis classes. A lot of technicians seem to consider electrical work wizardry, and dont take the time to really learn to diagnose and repair.

You can write your own ticket if you can truly understand, diagnose, and repair electrical problems which will be increasingly inportant as complexity increases, even as engines change. All shops need these people. Anyone can do brakes and an oil change.
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Don’t be afraid Father of Giants. Techs will adapt. A High current transision course and a handshake is all that’s needed. Electric cars have been around since the dawn of the automobile. Battery technology has made great advances. That’s a good thing. You still get to keep your relic of a diesel. It’s been outdated for a long time and some of us like the old stuff because it’s easily understood comparatively speaking. Such is life in many ways. You can stay in your bubble of “good old days” or you can advance to modernity by trial of error like most folks do. Either way, you and the techs will be fine.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:05 PM
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For over the road trucks, there will be a battery change out for faster turn around. The first to try this will be freight companies for depot to depot runs since this is a stable route with known energy requirements.

Next will be inner city routes where energy use is slightly more variable and then suburb / rural routes where the trip routs is less stable. We are no where near an owner operator running an electric truck.

The real future is natural gas, UPS has moved many trucks to this fuel. I've also seen gas turbine / electric drive trucks in the design phase. This is a real alternative to 100 % electric. A small battery pack can be used for yard moves and the turbine on the road. This battery also gives the option of recovering energy lost in braking.

Also, battery powered mini excavators exist right now from many manufacturers. Enter " battery powered excavator " in your google machine. The target is in a building where fumes can't be contained / exhausted.



When anyone starts to leans towards " language " to make their point and randomly says things are " junk " without any real reasons to back it up, that tells me that they don't understand the problem.
I listened to what you had to say until your last sentence. Sorry professor for my profane language I will refrain. And I repeat I know nothing! Absolutely nothing about anything. Especially relating to this subject! Zero!
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