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Old 03-21-2019, 08:45 AM
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question about trans oil cooler lines

mine are i believe original. it would really stink if they failed. is there anything else in that neighborhood that i should go ahead and change?

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It's a good idea to replace all rubber hoses at some point as they are probably and most likely original.
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Check your hard lines, along their length, for any weeping. Now would be a good time to replace the clamps holding them. Especially if any are starting to deteriorate.
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mine are i believe original. it would really stink if they failed. is there anything else in that neighborhood that i should go ahead and change?

190d
Instead of buying cheap replacements of questionable quality, remove your old ones and cut off the hydraulic swages, clamp on some fresh AT cooler rubber line onto the old end nipples with oetiker clamps. Or have then swaged at a hydraulics shop. I have done the rubber line and oetiker clamps on a few cars till now.

work perfect, slide on the old spring tube on them to make them look OE.

they come out cheaper.
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Old 03-21-2019, 03:52 PM
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As said previously the clamps that hold the steel lines steady often have the rubber part fall apart and vibration of metal on metal cuts a hole int the tubing. It happened to me.
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As said previously the clamps that hold the steel lines steady often have the rubber part fall apart and vibration of metal on metal cuts a hole int the tubing. It happened to me.
bending a new set of those from some new tube stock shouldnt take much effort.
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Something to remember when reusing metal ends and replacing rubber hose.

The metal ends need to have barbs if you are going to use a band clamp.

Non barbed fittings need to have a captive ferrule otherwise the hose can blow off the fitting. A captive ferrule is crimped to the metal fitting and hose preventing blow off.
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Is there anything else in that neighborhood that i should go ahead and change?

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That's a dangerous question.

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If you are, everything. Just be discrete about all those boxes coming in
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Something to remember when reusing metal ends and replacing rubber hose.

The metal ends need to have barbs if you are going to use a band clamp.

Non barbed fittings need to have a captive ferrule otherwise the hose can blow off the fitting. A captive ferrule is crimped to the metal fitting and hose preventing blow off.
In a completely other brand of car I added a universal style transmission cooler and was extremely bored so I made a lineset from tubing and short sections of hose to connect everything, I did a "start" of a bubble flare on the ends just to swell up the ends like I see on most low pressure lines, slipped on the rubber hose and clamped it.

That lineset has been dry for a year now. I think the ferrule will also do the same purpose.
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I did a "start" of a bubble flare on the ends just to swell up the ends like I see on most low pressure lines, slipped on the rubber hose and clamped it.
The start of a bubble ( ISO ) flare has the same effect as a barb, I do the same on lines.
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bending a new set of those from some new tube stock shouldnt take much effort.
If you are speaking of the tubing that is one way. I chose to cut the tubing and slide rubber oil cooler hose over the tubing and clamp it. See attached pic.

Some have used a Union with compression fittings (I have seen them at Auto Zone).

Since it is the Transmission Cooler line it is a low pressure line.
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The German Cohline part is $19/each. Buy two,install it, top off the fluid and call it a day.

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If you are speaking of the tubing that is one way. I chose to cut the tubing and slide rubber oil cooler hose over the tubing and clamp it. See attached pic.

Some have used a Union with compression fittings (I have seen them at Auto Zone).

Since it is the Transmission Cooler line it is a low pressure line.
That pic doesnt bid well, Im thinking the line is not flared/swollen at the edges as we discussed. This type of repair blows apart. The compression union is a perfectly good repair here.
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That pic doesnt bid well, Im thinking the line is not flared/swollen at the edges as we discussed. This type of repair blows apart. The compression union is a perfectly good repair here.

Yep. This is OK for a get me home repair ( especially with 2 clamps per side ) , but over time the rubber will compress, clamping force be lost and hose can come off. I've had crimped on hoses become loose from the metal and leak but the barb keeps things from coming apart.

Another issue with a straight cut metal tube is the tubes end can cut through the hose's inner liner resulting in a leak especially of the hose is at a flex point.

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