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Old 11-19-2002, 04:41 PM
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I only have 1 vacuum line going to the gas cap...

Should I have 2? One to lock and one to unlock? Sneaking down the passenger side of the car are 2 vacuum lines: 1 going to the gas cap actuator and 1 to the "storage tank"...if I am missing 1 line where does it come from so I can replace it?
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Old 11-19-2002, 05:27 PM
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Shawnster,

Do the trunk and fuel door lock and unlock properly? If they do, don't worry about it. If they don't we will need more info to help you sort it out. What color are the lines? They should have red or yellow srtipes, one may be solid yellow.


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Old 11-19-2002, 05:33 PM
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Thanks, thebern-

No, I'm having lots of vacuum troubles with the door locks and intermittent dieseling (no pun intended) on my 81 300td. I've done some general troubleshooting but haven't purchased a pump just yet. When I noted that the gas cap only has one line going to it I was wondering if that could be right? The actuator definitely has 2 fittings on it...
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:02 PM
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Wow, its bad isn't it.

My haynes manual shows only one line at the fuel door, it should be yellow witha red stripe. Use the search feature here to find lots of answers. I can fax to you the mb service manual pages diagnosing vacuum problems. with diagams. Keep in mind I have a 240 but it is a 123 chassis so it should be close. You will definately need a mighty vac to systematically fix the problem. Get one with the brake bleeder as you can also use it to change brake fluid.

The intermittant dieseling is from a leak that won't 'pull' the 'shut off valve', to off, to stop the engine. Under the hood will be a red stickered lever that says 'engine stop ', push on it to stop the engine.

IMPORTANT: How long have you had the car? Did this just start? Has anyone, including you, been under the hood who may have 'nudged' a line loose? Do you have any manuals?

Vacumm problems are a royal pain but can be overcome. My car is fine except that their is still a leaking locking line that goes flat after about 4 hours. Hang in their, we'll help ya get it fixed!

I'm about to leav e the shop now and will get back with you in the morning.

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Old 11-19-2002, 06:14 PM
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Thanks again~

Well, I've been under the hood checking all of the hose connectors there: I've replaced some of them (the ones on thermovacuum valve and egr) because they were trashed. I've inspected all others and they all look good, intact.

Because the problem started with the hatch I started there: inspecting the connectors there and then the gas cap. So does one of the gas cap actuator fittings just vent to open air? Weird-

Fax'ing me the diagrams would be AWESOME. You could also e-mail them to me if you want: townkraftdeluxe@uncleoscars.com.
I have the Haynes manual but not any of the MB manuals yet.
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:30 PM
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My 300CD has two lines going to the fuel flapper lock actuater. They are both the same color, but I'd have to go look to remember their color.

On mine both of these lines must be attached for the flapper lock to acuate and to not have a vacuum leak.
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Old 11-19-2002, 07:00 PM
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My 72 280 SE only has one line to the gas filler door lock, it appears to be spring loaded open so that it is locked with vac, but unlocks with spring pressure. The locks work, so that cannot wrong.

Look behind the cover panels in the trunk -- you may have a line broken off. If this is the case, you will have no lock function (or they will lock, but not unlock, or vise versa). Stray end may still be there. All the yellow with red lines connect together, and all the yellow with green stripe lines connect together. Yellow only is the supply line to the driver's door.

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Old 11-20-2002, 12:44 AM
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My '85 has only one line (yellow w/orange stripe) running to the fuel door lock. The other nipple has nothing attached to it. The lock has a spring that causes it to unlock when the vacuum is released. I imagine that it was designed this way so you could still fuel your car if you had a vacuum problem. I think your plumbing is as it should be.
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Old 11-20-2002, 07:42 AM
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No to belabor the point, but I posted earlier that I had two lines going to the fuel flapper lock actuator. Mine is a 300CD. I didn't post that the model is a 1981, like yours. The vacuum line diagram I have also shows two lines going there.

It may be that yours is supposed to have only one line. I'm only saying check carefully. Most of the others posting here do not have '81's. But, I've found on other Benzes I've owned, that not all models of the same year are exactly the same.

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